Posted on 08/02/2004 10:50:02 AM PDT by hoosiermama
frmail to you
I think this phrase addresses that question.
From the article:
Whereas the Democratic party has used racist demagoguery to deceive African Americans about the history of the Republican Party that:...
They've used it for decades and will continue to do so as long as it works.
Glad to see it reposted......it deserves to be read by every American!
Frances is an American patriot and a remarkable woman! Here is her biographical information.
Frances Rice is an attorney and an African-American woman who served in the Army for 20 years before retiring as a Lieutenant Colonel. While in the Army she served as a company commander, an adjutant in a basic combat training brigade and a prosecutor in courts-marital.
Upon retiring, she was awarded the Legion of Merit. She is currently serving on the Board of the Military Officers Association of Sarasota, the SaraMana Black Republican Club and the SaraMana Community Development Corporation, a non-profit organization that helps low-income residents become homeowners and small business owners. In these positions, she puts both her Juris Doctorate and MBA degrees to good use.
She was recently appointed by Governor Jeb Bush to serve on the Medal of Merit Board for the state of Florida. Frances is married to Peter Rice, a retired diplomat from the U.S. Department of State.
Why not send this great article to every African American magazine, newspaper and web site, especially to the NAACP.
I do not appreciate the generalized unfounded associations you make between the Republican party and white racists, no matter how well written they are! NO, the influence of racists in the party is NOT significant!
You provided no names of any "dixiecrats" who switched parties to become republicans. The best you could do was a generalized pronouncement and present a racist stereotype of southerners.
You could provide no facts because, on the contrary, all of the Democrats who fought against the Civil Rights amendment in 1964---STAYED DEMOCRAT---INCLUDING AL GORE SR and Robert Byrd!...only Thurmond switched parties.
The COFCC ain't voting republican either! They have an article smearing the republicans on their site, which you posted. And they certainly don't have any links to republican sites or candidates on their site, so your attempt to group them as the "racist wing" of the republican party, just doesn't fly!
Using your reasoning, I suppose that one could say that since radical Muslim terrorists are not going to vote for republicans, they are democrats!
David Duke is NOT a part of the National Republican Party, and so I do not believe that he defines the party in even the smallest way-although the Democrats would like him to. They like to ignore United States Senator Byrd and focus on some lowly county executive in Louisiana! Ignore Dodd's comments, and focus on Lott's......who, by the way, was punished by his party for his comments, while the democrats did nothing about Dodd's comments!
How many black Democratic Senators have there been? How about NONE. Republicans have had 3. How many black Democrats have been appointed to power positions in a Presidential administration? (attorney general, secretary of state, secretary of defense, chief of staff, press secretary, national security adviser, White House counsel) Bush appointed 6 minorities to his cabinet, (one was even a Democrat) and two blacks and a hispanic in the "power" positions---as a matter of fact minorities have filled 45 percent of the Bush administration's highest policy positions!
You are reguritating oft repeated Democratic false propaganda, and I am not going for it.
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I agree. I would love to have been a fly on the wall, or at least a disregarded open mike.
I would like to ask your thoughts on the Council for Conservative Citizens. They clearly favor Republicans, and I see them as paradigmatic of the "racist wing" of the Republican Party. Are they non-representative? (I ask that genuinely, not rhetorically.)
This is a little known organization that is said to have a history of ties to the white supremacist movement. You stated they clearly favor Republicans but I see no proof that Republicans favor them. The organization has no authority or sway in the Republican Party. They exist and may even favor some Republicans over others, but I would not judge the candidates they support based on a CCC endorsement, I would evaluate them based on their individual records. The CCC is not the Republican Party as a whole and only a few of their views are shared by those in the party. Politics does make strange bedfellows, but I would say that the Communist Party and even the Socialist Party have far more influence on the Democratic Party than the CCC has ever had in the Republican Party.
I also wonder what you see as the reason behind the southern shift away from Democrats (in national elections) over the last 60 years. The Dixiecrats were, of course, not Democrats, by definition. And their big issue was segregation, right? And what happened after 1964 besides the Civil Rights Act that can explain why federal Democrats, especially presidential candidates, have a tough time winning southern states, when they used to take that for granted? Again, a genuine question. If the conventional wisdom is wrong, I'd like to hear why.
You asked, so here is my opinion:
If you look at the long record of governors and senators and congressmen, you will see the Democratic Party predominant in most of the southern states until very recently. Most of the state houses and senates were Democratic as well. The reason why the national party did so poorly in the South was again due to the southerners’ hatred of the North and the dislike of their perceived northern ideals.
Since 1964, every time the power brokers of the Democratic Party have nominated a northerner they have had trouble. Lyndon Johnson (Texas) - big winner in the South, Hubert Humphrey (Minn.) - no south winner, McGovern (South Dakota) – no south winner, Jimmy Carter (GA) – a winner though Carter did eventually lose to Reagan in the South and everywhere else. Dukakis (Mass) northern liberal - no south. Clinton, a son of the South, won there. Al Gore, who by 2000 could barely gather up the remaining few of his father’s racist friends, not only lost the South, but also lost his own home state of Tennessee to a southern Republican George Bush. You can see the trend for yourself. Most of the candidates nominated to run by the Democrats were the dreaded northerners and communistic, socialistic and eventually humanistic anti-American liberals. If they were perceived as one of their own, they won. If they were perceived as liberal influenced or northern invaders, they did not.
The dynamic influence that I believe led to this situation is the religious nature of the South. As the Democratic Party took on more of the ideas of the humanistic, intellectual northern elitists, they began to become less religious and more anti-war, anti-US, anti-military. It was this turning away from the Lord, and those things perceived as right, that the drove people into the party that was not ashamed of God and tradition. Black people as well share a love of the Lord, but for some reason, we seem more able to separate our political beliefs from our religious beliefs.
Those who saw and truly hated the new ideals of the Democratic Party, but also still hated the dreaded Republican Yankees, later formed the now defunct Dixiecrat Party. They were also known as the State’s Rights Democratic Party. The Dixiecrats were short-lived organization of electorate, even in the south, and after a brief separation, they quickly returned to the Democratic party which always held the majority of those who voted KKK line.
I hope I haven’t bored you too much, and I don’t want to eat up all the bandwidth. I do tend to go on. If you have any other questions or thoughts, please freepmail me.
I apologize for offending you; it was not my intention. I do not want to extend this argument too long. But please allow me to answer a couple of your criticisms, because obviously I've angered you, and I want to show that I have some factual basis for my claims.
I actually did mention some names of Democrats who became Republicans and who were racist. But look, the bottom line is that, at the federal level, the Democrats used to have a strong liberal wing based in the North and a strong conservative wing based in the South. The conservative wing included many for whom issues of race -- or "states rights," insofar as those rights allowed the perpetuation of Jim Crow -- were paramount. The Democrats now have an overwhelming liberal wing and a weak conservative wing.
Look at these facts. Three of the four states that Thurmond won -- Mississippi, Alabama, and South Carolina -- started voting reliably Republican in federal elections right around the civil rights movement. That's not coincidence. You want names? Each of those voters has a name. Consider: in 1948, Dixiecrats got 87% of the Mississippi vote. Then in 1964, Republican Barry Goldwater got, yes, 87% of the Mississippi vote. In other words, the supporters of the Dixiecrats very quickly became the supporters of Republicans, at least on the presidential level. Similar numbers can be found for the other states that Thurmond won.
True, there may have been other reasons why Goldwater appealed to the South -- small government, for instance -- including many of the reasons I vote Republican today. But yes, in key southern states, Democrat voters became Dixiecrat voters, and they in turn became Republican voters at the federal level.
The C of CC does not endorse Republicans, but rather treats them as the Greens treat the Democrats: abdicators of the cause who are almost, but not quite, as bad as the other side. Trent Lott, a former Dem, spoke to this group, praised this group, and was enthusiastically supported by the group's president when he made his ill advised statements about Thurmond's candidacy.
Look, I'm not saying the Democrats don't race-bait too. Of course they do. But many southern Dems who once supported the Dems ultimately switched to the Reps by way of the Dixiecrats. If they had skipped the Dixiecrats but then went for Goldwater, I'd agree with you. But they didn't.
FYI.....I came across the following today.....
****The Black Vote****
"Democrats left Boston last week all fired up about John Kerry, save for one surprising group: the black vote," the Wall Street Journal says.
"That may explain why the Democratic nominee is dumping $2 million into outreach ads on Black Entertainment Television and urban contemporary radio," the newspaper said in an editorial.
"The Kerry camp's concern is that black support is miles wide, but only inches deep. A BET/CBS poll released on the eve of the Democratic convention found that just 27 percent of black voters are 'enthusiastic' about the nominee, and 45 percent say a Kerry presidency would make little difference in their lives. If you're a Democrat, this is worrisome because unenthused voters are more likely to stay home on Election Day. For Republicans, this is an opportunity to present the GOP as a viable alternative for the black electorate.
"Six months before an election, the black vote typically lags 10 points or so behind the white vote in intensity. Democrats usually close the gap in the interim by way of black media outlets and other get-out-the-vote efforts. But when the Tarrance Group conducted its battleground survey in June, it found that black voter intensity was trailing by more than 20 points. It also found that union voters, a Democratic constituency that comprises a disproportionate number of blacks, were less motivated by Mr. Kerry than white conservative Christians were by Mr. Bush."
---Greg Pierce, Inside Politics
August 3, 2004
dumping $2 million into outreach ads
Sort of like dumping money into a black (rat) hole.;^)
you said, "How many black Democratic Senators have there been? How about NONE. Republicans have had 3. "
I have to say that that is very wrong. Carol Moseley Braun is black. Carol Moseley Braun is a democrat. Carol Mosely Braun is a senator from Illinois. The 3 black senators from the republican party that you mentioned were all during reconstruction. The republican party during reconstruction is shares nothing with the current incarnation of the republican party except for their name, and isn't too terribly relevant. As an aside, the frontrunner for the senate seat in illinois is barack obama, democrat and a black man.
You also said, " How many black Democrats have been appointed to power positions in a Presidential administration? (attorney general, secretary of state, secretary of defense, chief of staff, press secretary, national security adviser, White House counsel) Bush appointed 6 minorities to his cabinet, (one was even a Democrat) and two blacks and a hispanic in the "power" positions---as a matter of fact minorities have filled 45 percent of the Bush administration's highest policy positions!"
I think you need look no further than the administrations relationship with their secretary of state, Colin Powell, to really see what they really think of their high ranking minorities. It is well known and documented how the administration has repeatedly ignored Powell's foreign policy recomendations. They neutered him. Sure he may serve in a high policy position but he isn't affecting policy because the arent listening to him. They're treating him like a token. I'm willing to bet the other minority appointments have had similar experiences.
Kinda late to the conversation, aren't you? Just signed up today, eh?
Well, I did totally forget Mosley-Braun...just like the voters in Ill.! Just look how they treated her---so, using your logic, since she wasn't properly appreciated, she doesn't count!
But, I have to point out your error as well. You forgot Edward Brooke, the first black Senator elected by popular vote. (The others were elected by their respective State legislatures) Bush Awarded Mr. Brooke the medal of Freedom in June, and he lives in Warrenton, VA. He is a WW2 hero...so, gosh, if you are right, and he was elected during reconstruction....WOW! WHAT A GUY! Still around over 140 years after his election to recieve an award from Bush!
It must be pointed out that YOU DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT BROOKE'S AWARD...none of us did. It was NOT on any newscast. The Democratic biased press refuses to give Bush any good press. They are a shill for Kerry.
Interesting read. I have lived all of my life in North Mississippi, and my family since the early 1800's here and I know of no one being ever in the KKK. Is it still in the south, or is it now more a northern group?
A Pastor read this at a Durham GOP event in Raleigh today, celebrating Freedom and the origins of the Republican Party. When he read the website, as the source- I almost fell out of my chair.
I have been hunting for this. Could not remember any of the key names that would I’D it!
Jim could we get it reposted ? Seems appropriate again now for others to share!
Go for it.
Excellent. :)
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