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Kerry promise on Iraq rings of Nixon 'secret plan'
Union Leader ^ | 8/02/04 | RON FOURNIER

Posted on 08/03/2004 8:58:24 AM PDT by kattracks

WASHINGTON - John Kerry says he can "put a deal together" as president to drastically reduce U.S. troop strength in Iraq, a pledge reminiscent of Richard Nixon's secret plan to end the Vietnam War and Dwight D. Eisenhower's promise to stop fighting in Korea.

Like those Republican presidential candidates, the Democrat's blueprint for peace lacks detail and has critics squawking.

With voters skittish about the death toll in Iraq, Kerry is pinning blame on President Bush and his shaky relationships with allies who have refused to support U.S. troops with soldiers of their own. The four-term Massachusetts senator suggests he has back-channel assurances that foreign leaders would do more if he were president.

"There is a potential to be able to put a deal together over the course of time," Kerry told The Associated Press in his first interview as the Democratic nominee. "At least, that is the perception that smart people like Joe Biden and, you know, Carl Levin and other leaders who've been there for a long time."

He said his fellow Democratic senators, reporting on their foreign travels, have told him, "A change in the presidency is essential to our ability to restore our respect and relationship."

But when asked for hard evidence that his victory would produce a troops-reducing deal for America, neither Kerry nor his fellow senators cite anything other than their vague perceptions and utmost hopes.

"I can't give you the details of any deal, obviously," Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., said Monday. "You don't negotiate a deal until you have a leader who is there to negotiate a deal."

Levin said he has talked to foreign leaders about potential changes in their Iraq policies after the U.S. election. "Nobody is going to say what the details of the deal are. They simply report to us that distrust of the administration is so intense that you can't take a risk" and deploy troops to Iraq, he said.

"I'm not going to tell you which foreign leaders, because I'd be breaking the confidence of foreign leaders that I've met," said Levin, the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Last spring, Kerry said foreign leaders preferred him to Bush, though he also refused to identify any.

Levin wavered on the question of whether any foreign leader promised to get more involved in Iraq if Kerry wins. "It seems to be that's the basic implication," he said at first.

But has any leader made a commitment?

No, he replied.

"I'm not in position nor should I attempt to negotiate with a foreign government," Levin said.

Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., a top Kerry adviser, thinks Kerry could sway allies better than the president, said spokesman Norm Kurz. But that's only hypothetical - "I don't think there's a guarantee," he said.

Kerry is only the latest presidential candidate to offer unspecified plans for peace.

In 1952, Eisenhower was running against Democrat Adlai Stevenson to replace unpopular incumbent Harry Truman when he promised to "concentrate on the job of ending the Korea war. ... That job requires a personal trip to Korea," he said. "I shall go to Korea."

Truman called the pledge a "desperate attempt to get votes." When Eisenhower went to Korea between his Election Day victory and his inauguration, Truman called it "a piece of demagoguery."

Republicans are just as tough on Kerry.

"John Kerry has an enormous lack of credibility on this issue," said Bush spokesman Steve Schmidt.

Kerry voted against the first Persian Gulf War, which threw Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait in 1991. Eleven years later, he voted to give Bush authority to use force against Saddam, then voted against a bill to help pay for the conflict as anti-war sentiment threatened to undermine his bid for the Democratic nomination.

In 1968, Nixon sought political gain from anti-war fervor when he touted a secret plan to end the Vietnam War. Kerry, a decorated veteran of that conflict, reminds some of Nixon when he talks of vague deals with foreign leaders.

"I don't care what it sounds like," Kerry told ABC. "The fact is that I'm not going to negotiate in public today without the presidency."

The Vietnam War ended after Nixon left office. Eisenhower oversaw the 1953 Korean War armistice.

Anthony Cordesman, an Iraq expert with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Kerry's plan assumes too much.

"Nobody is going to bail us out of our responsibilities in this conflict," said Cordesman, former adviser to Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. "It is not a matter of who is the president at this point. There simply won't be any international support for a country like France or Germany to do it."

Furthermore, he said the insurgency is either going to be contained in the next year or the American public will demand an end to the occupation. Either way, there will be a significant reduction in U.S. troops within four years.



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqnixon; kerry; kerryforeignpolicy; kerrysecrets; nixon; secretplan

1 posted on 08/03/2004 8:58:25 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Is this AP Ron, the reporter who's never met a Democrat he didn't like?


3 posted on 08/03/2004 9:02:52 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

Anyone notice Kerry's spittle on his stump speech last night? He spit out a big wad of stuff and it landed on the microphone and sat there as white spittle.

It was really disgusting!

On the other hand, we should find film of it and replay it over and over. LOL


4 posted on 08/03/2004 9:05:22 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
Anyone notice Kerry's spittle on his stump speech last night? He spit out a big wad of stuff and it landed on the microphone and sat there as white spittle.

You should probably archive that, as it is the last time you'll see anything of substance come out of him.

5 posted on 08/03/2004 9:22:21 AM PDT by Philistine
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To: kattracks

The next time I meet with a customer, when he asks me how I'm going to help his business, I'll tell him I have a "secret plan". That'll work, won't it? "Just sign here on the dotted line, Mr. Customer, and we'll get right to work on the secret plan."


6 posted on 08/03/2004 9:25:48 AM PDT by Califelephant (You can't be both pro-business and pro-trial lawyers.)
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To: All

When President Bush is re-elected in a landslide, does anyone think that the rest of the world will respect the decision of the American people?

I don't think they will, but I am interested in what you guys think.


7 posted on 08/03/2004 9:26:20 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the Rapture, the Bush White House will be unmanned.)
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To: kattracks

I say that Kerry should be put on Double Secret Probation for that kind of talk.


8 posted on 08/03/2004 9:28:55 AM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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To: kattracks

So the jist of this story is that Kerry, Levin and Biden are lying bags of scat?


9 posted on 08/03/2004 9:36:27 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: muawiyah

You started this. :)


10 posted on 08/03/2004 9:38:54 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: kattracks

If Kerry truly does have a legitimate 'secret plan' that would reduce troop fatalities, he's being completely irresponsible by not sharing it. He's saying it's OK for troops to be killed until he assumes office in January. Only at that time will he whip out his 'secret plan'. If he doesn't have a plan, he's lying. So he's either a liar or an irresponsible opportunist.


11 posted on 08/03/2004 10:17:03 AM PDT by nosofar ("I'm not above the Law. I am the Law!" - Judge Dredd)
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To: kattracks
"I don't care what it sounds like," Kerry told ABC. "The fact is that I'm not going to negotiate in public today without the presidency."

Once again, it's all about Kerry (not that he has anything to offer). This really shows where Kerry's allegiance falls and that is to himself and not the country.

12 posted on 08/03/2004 10:28:05 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: BushisTheMan
Anyone notice Kerry's spittle on his stump speech last night? He spit out a big wad of stuff and it landed on the microphone and sat there as white spittle.

I saw that too, and I thought to myself this morning on my way to work, that that video clip could be used to really gross people out. It was really disgusting!!

13 posted on 08/03/2004 10:30:14 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: Baynative

Caption: First peace meeting between VVAW and the NLF, Paris, 1971

From the Congressional Record - 04/22/71:

Mr. KERRY. My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned.

Mr. KERRY. Mr. Chairman, I realize that full well as a study of political science. I realize that we cannot negotiate treaties and I realize that even my visits in Paris, precedents had been set by Senator McCarthy and others, in a sense are on the borderline of private individuals negotiating, et cetera.

Kerry Met With Viet Cong And North Vietnamese In Paris In 1971

US Code TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 45 > Sec. 953. Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects

Source

14 posted on 08/03/2004 11:04:09 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: kattracks
Maybe he's gonna send Rev'nn Jackson over?

Or Jimmah Cahter, that Nobel-prize-winning peacemaker...

This is just so outrageous!! Whoever said "he's either a liar or completely unprincipled" (yeah, they'll just have to keep getting shot at by insurgents unless I'm President) was right!! Pond scum.

(speaking of...I did see the spit fly, but fortunately missed noticing the "landing" and "repose" on the mic...yech!!)

15 posted on 08/03/2004 12:31:50 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: kattracks

IF KERRY HAS A PLAN TO SAVE AMERICAN LIVES THEN WHY IS HE WAITING UNTIL ELECTION?!?!?!?!?


I cant wait til this is over he is dorking up the place so bad...


16 posted on 08/03/2004 1:17:53 PM PDT by Mr. K
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To: kattracks
In 1968, Nixon sought political gain from anti-war fervor when he touted a secret plan to end the Vietnam War.

Nixon never claimed to have a "secret plan" to settle the war. In 1968, he told reporters that he had no "gimmicks or secret plans," and that if he had any, he would have disclosed them to President Johnson. Although the myth of Nixon's "secret plan" has been debunked many times, it somehow persists.

18 posted on 06/23/2007 9:10:37 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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