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Millions in U.S. Face Mega-Wave from Island Collapse (don't worry about meteors)
reuters ^ | Mon 9 August, 2004 14:33 | Scientist Bill McGuire, Jeremy Lovell

Posted on 08/09/2004 10:27:49 AM PDT by Truth666

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To: Truth666
...some time in the next few thousand years...
...would almost certainly be turned catastrophic by another eruption of the volcano which erupts every 25 to 200 years.
Within 10 to 30 years, all the near-earth asteroids will have been charted.

We're safe for ten years, twenty five years, thirty years, a few thousand years. Take your choice of disaster and time frame. Whoever is President will be blamed if he is a Republican. If he is a Democrat the blame will be on the last Republican administration.

21 posted on 08/09/2004 10:47:12 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Truth666

I expect somebody will post a reply, telling you not to put this information up where terrorists might see it and get the thought to trigger the collapse on their own. They've already asked us not to post the Kerry campaign schedule for similar reasons...


22 posted on 08/09/2004 10:47:58 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong.)
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To: Truth666

Global slippage? Caused by American obesity no doubt.


23 posted on 08/09/2004 10:48:48 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Poohbah
President Kerry will consider a nuanced, sensitive response to the crisis, right up to the moment that the wave smashes the White House...

He will sit stunned and unable to think for forty minutes, until someone else tells him to move off of the target.

Just like the last time a disaster befell these United States...

24 posted on 08/09/2004 10:51:04 AM PDT by null and void (Want to live in a socialist state now? Vote (D). Want to live in a socialist state soon? Vote (R)...)
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To: ßuddaßudd
I dont know if the 'wave' is to be aimed at the US or not.

Scientists speculate that the wave generated by the Nu'uanu slide off Oahu that hit the California coast was in excess of 150 feet. It was aimed directly at CA.

Any future slide will probably originate off the southeast coast of the Big Island - Chile & Peru will be the lucky recipients.

25 posted on 08/09/2004 10:51:12 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Truth666
New York Times headline:

Huge Wave Smashes East Coast
Minorities, Women Hardest Hit

26 posted on 08/09/2004 10:52:44 AM PDT by George Smiley
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To: blam

I found this article...interesting.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2001-08/ucl-mtd082301.php
Public release date: 31-Aug-2001

Contact: Patrick Edwards
media@ucl.ac.uk
44-20-7-679-1621
University College London

Mega-tsunami to devastate US coastline

A tsunami wave higher than any in recorded history threatens to ravage the US coastline in the aftermath of a volcanic eruption in the Canary Islands, UK and US scientists will report today. Locations on both African and European Atlantic coastlines - including Britain - are also thought to be at risk.
The new research, a collaboration between Dr. Simon Day of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre at UCL and Dr. Steven Ward of the University of California, reveals the extent and size of the mega-tsunami, the consequence of a giant landslide that may be triggered by a future eruption of the Cumbre Vieja volcano.

Previous research by Simon Day and colleagues predicted that a future eruption would be likely to cause a landslide on the western flank of Cumbre Vieja. A block of rock approximately twice the volume of the Isle of Man would break off, travelling into the sea at a speed of up to 350 kilometres per hour. The disintegration of the rock, this earlier study predicted, would produce a debris avalanche deposit extending 60 kilometres from the island. The energy released by the collapse would be equal to the electricity consumption of the entire United States in half a year.

The new model - which provides further insights into the consequences of the collapse - predicts that the landslide would create an exceptionally large tsunami with the capability to travel great distances and reaching speeds of up to 800 kilometres per hour. Immediately after Cumbre Vieja's collapse a dome of water 900 metres high and tens of kilometres wide will form only to collapse and rebound. As the landslide continues to move underwater a series of wave crests and troughs are produced which soon develop into a tsumani 'wave train' which fuels the waves progress. After only 10 minutes, the model predicts, the tsunami will have moved a distance of almost 250 kilometres.

The greatest effects are predicted to occur north, west and south of the Canaries. On the West Saharan shore waves are expected to reach heights of 100 metres from crest to trough and on the north coast of Brazil waves over 40 metres high are anticipated. Florida and the Caribbean, the final destinations in the North Atlantic to be affected by the tsunami, will have to brace themselves for receiving 50 kilometre high waves - higher than Nelson's column in London, some 8 to 9 hours after the landslide. Towards Europe waves heights will be smaller, but substantial tsunami waves will hit the Atlantic coasts of Britain, Spain Portugal and France.

For tsunamis striking flat-lying coastline regions such as Florida, calculating the inundation distance - the extent to which water penetrates inland taking the form of fast moving floods after waves break - is crucial to assessing potential damage. Dr. Day and his colleagues estimate inundation distances in the region of several kilometres from the coast. Accurate estimates of the scale of economic loss are yet to be made but are thought to be in the multi-trillion USD range.

Placing the results of the Cumbre Vieja model in its wider context, Dr Simon Day, and Post-doctoral Research Fellow at UCL, said:

'Anyone planning a holiday to the Canary Islands and the islanders themselves need not panic. Cumbre Vieja is not errupting so the short-term and medium-term risks are negligble.'

Dr Day continued:

' The collapse will occur during some future eruption after days or weeks of precursory deformation and earthquakes. An effective earthquake monitoring system could provide advanced warning of a likely collapse and allow early emergency management organisations a valuable window of time in which to plan and respond.’

' Eruptions of Cumbre Vieja occur at intervals of decades to a century or so and there may be a number of eruptions before its collapse. Although the year to year probability of a collapse is therefore low, the resulting tsunami would be a major disaster with indirect effects around the world. Cumbre Vieja needs to monitored closely for any signs of impending volcanic activity and for the deformation that would precede collapse.'


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Further information: Patrick Edwards, Head of Media Relations, Tel: 020-7679-1621, E: media@ucl.ac.uk. David Reid, Media Relations Assistant, Tel: 020-7679-1618, Mob: 07904-921751, E: d.reid@ucl.ac.uk.

Notes to Editors.

(i) Cumbre Vieja Volcano; Potential Collapse and Tsunami at La Palma, Canary Islands, Ward and Day will be published in the September 2001 edition of Geophysical Research Letters.

(ii) A special briefing on Dr Day's research will be held at University College London at 11.00am on Wednesday 29August 2001 .Contact UCL Media Relations to confirm attendance.

(iii) Picture Editors and Television News: Graphic images of the tsunami waves will be available at the press briefing along with archive film footage of a tsunami wave. Contact UCL Media Relations for details.




27 posted on 08/09/2004 10:54:14 AM PDT by FeliciaCat
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To: wideawake
The volcano will apparently go out of its way to harm the US, but leave the coasts of Africa, Europe and South America completely untouched.

You know how liberals are - malaria killing tens of millions of brown and black people: "ho hum." Overuse of DDT supposedly causing some damage to wild bird populations: "GLOBAL EMERGENCY!!"

28 posted on 08/09/2004 10:54:45 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: wideawake
You can find a less spectacular but still troubling analysis of the possible waves that could hit the US coast here.
29 posted on 08/09/2004 10:55:33 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Truth666
Resources: some pro and some anti.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml
http://oceanography.asu.edu/Student%20Projects%20Webpage/Spring%202003/project_nathan.htm
http://www.drgeorgepc.com/TsunamiMegaThreatEval.html
http://www.cdnn.info/article/tsunami/tsunami.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2001-08/ucl-mtd082301.php

30 posted on 08/09/2004 10:55:37 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: been_lurking
Reuters is recycling a Discovery/Learning Channel program that first aired over two years ago.

The purpose of this story is to convince us that, in comparison, a Kerry presidency wouldn't be so bad. (Plus, Edwards will file a class action suit against the volcano.)

31 posted on 08/09/2004 10:55:54 AM PDT by talleyman (John Kerry: The Manurian Candidate)
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To: talleyman
BUMP!
Bush did it and I question the timing!
32 posted on 08/09/2004 10:58:51 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: NRA2BFree
Like you, I don't know when, but it will wipe out much of the east coast.

I live about 650 feet from the Long Island Sound.

Surf's up, dudes.

33 posted on 08/09/2004 10:59:48 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: RightWhale

Hmmmmmmmm.
Now, if a Mars sized body hit Venus...
It would blow off enough of the plant to form a lunar sized companion...
Knock enough of the Cytherean atmosphere into space to eliminate the hyper greenhouse effect that bakes Venus...
Venus would cool enough for it to rain...
Oceans would form...
The new moon would drive tides...


34 posted on 08/09/2004 11:01:41 AM PDT by null and void (Want to live in a socialist state now? Vote (D). Want to live in a socialist state soon? Vote (R)...)
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To: Question_Assumptions

This document puts the "300m" claim to bed.

The images on page 3 indicate tsunamis of 10-25 meters in height above MSL on the US coast. That's still pretty hard-core surf, though.

Wonder what it would do to the North Atlantic conveyor...


35 posted on 08/09/2004 11:04:38 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: George Smiley
Washington Post headline:

"Tsunami's Intensity Worsened by Global Warming -- Some View Bush Refusal to Ratify Kyoto as Contributing Factor"

36 posted on 08/09/2004 11:04:49 AM PDT by tom h
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To: FeliciaCat

Residents living along the Gulf of Mexico wish to extend our thanks in advance to Florida for volunteering to take the brunt of this wave.


37 posted on 08/09/2004 11:05:19 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: mvpel

Rather, the 100m/300ft. Waves of that size would be limited to Africa.


38 posted on 08/09/2004 11:05:25 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Poohbah
President Kerry will consider a nuanced, sensitive response to the crisis, right up to the moment that the wave smashes the White House...

...and then scream "Bush knew! If we would have just negotiated with this volcano, it would not have blown! He allowed this to happen!"

39 posted on 08/09/2004 11:06:04 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
I live about 650 feet from the Long Island Sound.

Surf's up, dudes.

Yikes, I guess surf's up!! That would make quite a big "curl" wouldn't it? I don't know anything about surfing. We don't have much water where I live, so surfing's not an option.

40 posted on 08/09/2004 11:07:41 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.)
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