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To: Spiff
You know I find that Classless all the way around. I know Kolbe is gay but as far as I know he has been a fairly Loyal Republican even if he is somewhat of a RINO.
I don't live in Arizona and have no axes to grind there but the reality of today's politics is that there are going to be gay politicians and some of them are bound to be Republicans,and while we won't agree on every issue, if Jim Kolbe supports the War on Terrorism and a Conservative economic agenda, i.e. Tax Cuts and Less Regualtions, etc., I just don't care what his personal love life is.
11 posted on 08/13/2004 12:28:20 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Agree with you 100%.
DKK


14 posted on 08/13/2004 12:34:11 PM PDT by LifeTrek
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To: Captain Peter Blood
"if Jim Kolbe supports the War on Terrorism and a Conservative economic agenda, i.e. Tax Cuts and Less Regualtions, etc., I just don't care what his personal love life is."

I strongly disagree. Need I remind you of Klinton?

I prefer my elected officials to reflect the values of me and my neighbors.

17 posted on 08/13/2004 12:48:23 PM PDT by lormand (I've got your "poll" right here.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

There is not enough room under the Republican "big tent" for both sodomites and conservative Christians. The sooner the GOP realizes that and tells one or the other group to take a hike, the smoother things will run.


21 posted on 08/13/2004 12:58:09 PM PDT by applemac_g4
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To: Captain Peter Blood; LifeTrek

Jim Kolbe: Leading our Families into Oblivion

Paul Rollins
SEAR Club Columnist
Jul. 26, 2004 12:00AM

Today, as I was eating dinner, my wife handed me a postcard from my friendly Congressman, Jim Kolbe. It appears he finally got around to scheduling Town Hall meetings in Cochise County. The post card announced three Town Hall meetings in August however the post card said it was paid for by Kolbe 2004. I found that fact particularly interesting because Town Hall meetings provide a forum in which the public can interact with their representative. They are visits of official business, so, it begs the question: Are these Town Hall meetings or campaign stops?

Some food for thought.

Anyway, as I was reading the post card, I spied a short statement on the front of the card underneath a picture of Kolbe, which read, “Experience. Integrity. Leadership for Arizona Families.” The next thing I knew my wife was performing the Heimlich maneuver on me because I had choked on a forkful of enchiladas.

Leadership for Arizona Families? Kolbe can not be serious.

Unfortunately his is very serious, but the facts show that Kolbe’s record in regards to safeguarding the family is among the most disgraceful among any active Republican politician. His record even makes some Democrats look good. He has continually undermined attempts to protect traditional marriage, embrace traditional lifestyles, and protect the innocent unborn.

First and foremost is the simple fact that Kolbe shamelessly embraces a homosexual lifestyle. I am continually amazed at how voters, especially Republican and conservative voters can turn a blind eye to this most egregious fact. How can we expect someone with such twisted personal affinities to be one-hundred percent committed to protect sacred family values? Kolbe said that being gay is “as irrelevant as the fact that I am blue-eyed, right-handed, and balding." Kolbe also said, “That I am a gay person has never affected the way that I legislate”

But, reality tells us something much different. The fact that Kolbe is gay has everything to do with his voting record on social issues. Even gay publications admit that Kolbe “became more supportive of gay and lesbian rights issues than [he] had been while closeted.” The point here is that we, as voters, are tolerating someone who embraces a deviant way of life to represent us in congress. We are allowing him to vote his conscience on our behalf. We are putting our voice, our values, and our children’s future in the hands of someone who lives a lifestyle so very different from yours and mine.

Secondly, Kolbe has shamefully and consistently voted to support the repulsive practice of abortion, including the heinous procedure of partial birth abortion. He supports abortion on the one hand, while claiming to safeguard family values on the other. Kolbe wants his cake and he wants to eat it, too. Sadly, not an opportunity has passed Kolbe by where he has not sought to support the murder of unborn children. Consider the following regarding Kolbe’s votes on abortion and the unborn:

This record on abortion clearly shows Kolbe’s blatant disregard for the conservative values that prevail in Cochise County. We are permitting a man to represent us who does not even respect the sanctity of life in its most innocent form. If Kolbe can permit such injustice to continue, what other kinds of vice is he willing to embrace?

Lastly, Kolbe is an enemy to traditional marriage. This past week saw the U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly pass legislation barring federal courts from ordering states to recognize same-sex marriages that may be sanctioned in other states. He has voiced his opposition to an amendment to the Constitution which would define marriage as a union between one man and one woman. Interestingly enough, before Kolbe admitted to his homosexual lifestyle, he did vote for the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA); however he recently showed his contempt for that legislation with his vote of last week.

Marriage has been the foundation of society for thousands of years. It was designed by God as the basis upon which children could be brought into this world. Its purpose is to provide a foundation of love and support in which to raise the future of our country in correct principles of love, responsibility, and service to our country and our fellow man. But Kolbe has proven, through his voting record, that he holds in contempt this most sacred institution and will not stand up to defend it.

I have to ask the question. Why would Kolbe vote this way if his chosen lifestyle did not impact his voting? It clearly does, and the more time we give this man to represent us, the less representing he will actually do.

Kolbe says that he is providing leadership for Arizona families. I guess he is right. He is leading our families right into the ash heap of history. He is deliberately misleading voters with his campaign post cards in order to swindle them out of a vote come September. Many local voters are surprised to learn of these most important truths. His record is there. Go and research it. Find out how different Kolbe’s values are to yours.

Gratefully we have a candidate which offers us a ray of hope. Randy Graf is challenging Jim Kolbe this year for his seat in congress. Randy Graf truly would provide the kind of leadership that Kolbe only feigns to impart. Randy Graf has proven his support of marriage, life, and traditional values.

As for me, I’ve recovered from choking on the enchiladas, but not from distaste of having to endure Jim Kolbe’s indifference toward the important things of life. As conservatives, let’s work together to ensure we do not suffer another term of Kolbe misrepresenting us in Congress.

Paul Rollins is second vice president of the South East Arizona Republican Club and regular contributor to www.searclub.com. Paul can be contacted at paulrollins@mstar2.net

23 posted on 08/13/2004 1:01:44 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

"while we won't agree on every issue, if Jim Kolbe supports the War on Terrorism and a Conservative economic agenda, i.e. Tax Cuts and Less Regualtions, etc., I just don't care what his personal love life is."



If he was pro-life and opposed gay marriage, I wouldn't care about his personal life, either. But Kolbe voted against the PArtial-Birth Abortion Ban, against the Unborn Victims of Violence Act (Laci and Conner's Law) and is actually to the left of John Kerry in that he supports gay marriage. I don't think someone who is such a liberal extremist on social issues should represent the GOP from a district that Bush carried by 2% in 2000 and that he will likely carry by a larger amount in 2004.

Kolbe has a Republican primary opponent in state representative Randy Graf, who is a true conservative. I think conservatives should do the right thing and support Mr. Graf in the primary, since our party must be true to its basic principles, and if opposition to partial-birth abortion and gay marriage aren't among them, I don't know what is.


27 posted on 08/13/2004 1:21:01 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
the deal is not whether Kolbe is a homosexual, he has other liberal interests as well. Such as, his stance on border issues. Kolbe proposes that illegal immigrants can simply pay a small fee, and push some paperwork and, in essence, receive amnesty for violating the sovereignty of our nation by illegally crossing into our country. This view is what makes Mr. Kolbe an enemy of the Party. Research this! You will see...
50 posted on 08/31/2004 10:01:08 AM PDT by gunner_jdw
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