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1 posted on 08/28/2004 2:29:44 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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I would like to say I know more about this writer but I don't but I did like his last sentence.


2 posted on 08/28/2004 2:33:15 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: Former Military Chick

"Christmas In Cambodia" almost makes me wonder if Kerry isn't from Texas.
Only my friends from Texas can fabricate a really ripping-good yarn like that!


4 posted on 08/28/2004 2:38:27 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Former Military Chick
he convinced himself that an untrue story was true

as people sometimes do.

Well, somehow I can't imagine that something this big and this important could be an event he just convinced himself was true, even though it wasn't. Something like the color slacks you wore to an event, maybe. Or whether you took one highway rather than a different one on vacation. But this? Verrrrry unbelievable.

5 posted on 08/28/2004 2:38:29 PM PDT by jwalburg (Hatriots for Kerry)
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To: Former Military Chick
There's "Seared ...Seared"....into a memory

and then again there is "Really Really Seared Seared"......

some liars have a tough time keeping their stories straight...

Never ever tell stories where other people who might not remain loyal to your version are included...

Some day...when you least expect it....they may come forward and tell the world how full of sh*t you really are....and how dangerous it would be to give you any power or authority...

Johnny Johnny Johnny....you are a 60 yr old case of arrested adolescence of near sociopathic dementia.....imagine you with Alzheimer's....you will never ever be able to find your way to the truth..

John Kerry is a truly sad excuse for a human being....but to put such a man in power is criminal

akin to giving a Chimpanzee a loaded gun and turning him loose in the fresh fruit section of a crowded grocery store...

imo
6 posted on 08/28/2004 2:39:10 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Former Military Chick

Round about way of saying Kerry lied about his experience for political gain. Which naturally raises the issue of what else are lies ?


7 posted on 08/28/2004 2:45:20 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Former Military Chick
But character counts in presidents

This is more fundamental than character. This is about someone who can't tell fantasy from reality.

Kerry didn't lie the way Clinton lied. Clinton always knew what the truth was. Kerry lied so many times, with so much colorful embroidery, that it appears he doen't know what reality is.

8 posted on 08/28/2004 2:46:35 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Former Military Chick
The claim that has been dropped: that Kerry was in Cambodia at Christmastime in 1968.

The next thing that needs to be dropped?...

Kerry.

LVM

9 posted on 08/28/2004 2:49:05 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Quick, vote for The French One, before he changes his mind and votes for GWB.)
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To: Former Military Chick

CIA guys give hats in gratitude? Whatever happened to stogies and hooch?


10 posted on 08/28/2004 2:49:27 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: Former Military Chick
Character counts. On the Christmas story (which even the pro-Kerry New York Times admits Kerry has not "put to rest"), perhaps Kerry was just confused about dates, or perhaps he convinced himself that an untrue story was true, as people sometimes do, and had no intent to mislead. A more unsettling possibility is that he consciously leapt the bounds of truth to make his experience seem more spectacular or to score political points. Those are not the sort of things most people want in a president.

That is it. Now public people are actually starting to link sKerry's to the 'Toons foibles, and net even the Demodogs want a repeat of that experience. Watch out for the falling elevator carrying the Demodogs now...

11 posted on 08/28/2004 2:49:45 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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13 posted on 08/28/2004 2:52:40 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Former Military Chick
The Kerry camp has provided no documentation of Kerry's missions to Cambodia; Meehan says that's not surprising because the missions were secret.

Meehan probably watches too many James Bond movies.

Secret missions still have written orders. They are documented. Probably with a stamp at the top and bottom that says 'Secret'. I'm sure that the Navy still has the records, even if they are classified.

I'm also sure that the Navy never sent a 50 foot long U.S. patrol craft down a narrow river to sneak into Cambodia with SEALs, CIA, or illegal arms shipments in tow. That would be like driving on the highway from Iraq to Syria in a Humvee, and thinking no one would notice when you crossed the border.

14 posted on 08/28/2004 2:52:46 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Don't make me roll initiative...!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Barone is a respected news person, but he is also a very liberal Democrat so this business, perhaps KErry was there, or maybe the story was not remembered right is full of cr--!! Character does count..and the man we have in the White House has character and has been a leader with determination and strength. He has told us many times his first duty is to the people and the security of the United States is number one on the list. That gets my attention.


16 posted on 08/28/2004 2:56:32 PM PDT by cousair
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To: Former Military Chick
A more unsettling possibility is that he consciously leapt the bounds of truth to make his experience seem more spectacular or to score political points.

Ya Think?!!

So cool to see this story getting legs.

17 posted on 08/28/2004 2:58:23 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Most of Kerry's boat mates testify to his heroism; most of those serving on other swift boats in the unit take a different view. So far as I know, all served honorably and are entitled to respectful attention; some may have political motives, in both directions. Battlefield memories inevitably and understandably differ.

Oh yeah...there is an agenda here...the author pretends to be a moderate voice...one who judges fairly and gives both sides credit due...

And plays the 'moral equivalence game'....Both sides...he says are honorable men...entitled to their "opinions"...and so both sides "stories" should be given "equal weight"

Therefore Kerry's "Lies" are just "honest" mistakes...and the Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth are also making 'honest mistakes"

You say POE TAY TO ..I say PO TAh To...lets call whole thing off.....

Just another "Kerrytale"....that says there is just as much evidence to support Kerry as the Swifties so none of this should be taken for or against Kerry or the Swifties..

The author declares a tie

Ain't gonna work though...because a preponderance of the evidence says Kerry is lying through his teeth...and the SBVT aren't gonna let him up until he admits....HE LIED and is a LIAR about his entire short Naval Career and his post Vietnam Anti War War Hero rhetoric and his trips to solicit deals with the North Vietnamese Communists...

IMO

19 posted on 08/28/2004 3:17:52 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Former Military Chick
Washington Post 8/21/04

"Although Kerry campaign officials insist that they have published
Kerry's full military records on their Web site
(with the exception of medical records shown briefly to reporters earlier this year),
they have not permitted independent access to his original Navy records.
A Freedom of Information Act request by The Post for Kerry's records produced six pages of information.
A spokesman for the Navy Personnel Command, Mike McClellan,
said he was not authorized to release the full file,
which consists of at least a hundred pages. "

TRANSCRIPT: 8/26/04
Steve Gardner, Foregunner, PCF44:
http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

"I spent more time on John Kerry's boat than any other crewmember.

John Kerry hasn't been honest - he has been deceitful.

John Kerry claims that he spent Christmas, in 1968, in Cambodia.

And that is catagorically a lie. Not in December. Not in January.

We were never in Cambodia on a secret mission. Ever."


Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004


NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.



Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE


The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE


Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969;
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."

Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company


Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

Send this url for the Steve Gardner video

http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/


Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

28 posted on 08/28/2004 7:15:08 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hippie Dippie Hanoi Kerry and Hippie Dippie Hanoi Jane sitting in a tree! F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: Former Military Chick
We can only hope that Kerry's house-of-cards will be blown over, and thoroughly exposed to the scrutiny of the voters BEFORE the election. If it does not happen until afterward, it will be too late.

With the power of the office, and with Hillary! to show him how (to access FBI files?), he and his minions would certainly be able to protect him from accepting any responsibility, and/or the consequences of his traitorous acts. (This is NOT mere conjecture. Bill Clinton already PROVED that for us.)

(...I think I'd better send off another contribution to the SwiftVets. They're still the *ONLY* ones getting any 'traction' on this joker...) SwiftVets.com


29 posted on 08/28/2004 11:22:07 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM* - The Liberal Solution to All of Society's Problems. (...*Other People's Money))
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