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Whopper: Arnold Schwarzenegger What were Soviet tanks doing in Austria's British-occupied sector?
Slate ^ | 9-3-04 | Slate

Posted on 09/04/2004 6:21:53 AM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy

ByTimothy Noah Posted Friday, Sept. 3, 2004, at 3:56 PM PT

When I was a boy, the Soviets occupied part of Austria. I saw their tanks in the streets. I saw communism with my own eyes. I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector. Growing up, we were told, "Don't look the soldiers in the eye. Look straight ahead." It was a common belief that Soviet soldiers could take a man out of his own car and ship him off to the Soviet Union as slave labor.

My family didn't have a car -- but one day we were in my uncle's car. It was near dark as we came to a Soviet checkpoint. I was a little boy, I wasn't an action hero back then, and I remember how scared I was that the soldiers would pull my father or my uncle out of the car, and I'd never see him again. My family and so many others lived in fear of the Soviet boot. Today, the world no longer fears the Soviet Union and it is because of the United States of America!

As a kid I saw the socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left. I love Austria and I love the Austrian people - but I always knew America was the place for me.

--Arnold Schwarzenegger, Aug. 31, 2004.

"It's a fact -- as a child he could not have seen a Soviet tank in Styria," the southeastern province where Schwarzenegger was born and raised, historian Stefan Karner told the Vienna newspaper Kurier.

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If this is true, it is as bad as "Christmas in Cambodia." I would like an explanation.
1 posted on 09/04/2004 6:21:54 AM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

No explanation necessary.

Re-read what Arnold said and compare it to what th historian says.

Total BS.


2 posted on 09/04/2004 6:23:12 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Well, that does it. Now I'm definitely voting for Kerry...NOT!


3 posted on 09/04/2004 6:23:23 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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Here is a clue . . .

I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector.

4 posted on 09/04/2004 6:24:36 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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If this is true, it is as bad as "Christmas in Cambodia."

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. heh...heheh... hehehehe... BWAHAHAHAHA!... You are really silly.

5 posted on 09/04/2004 6:24:58 AM PDT by new cruelty
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It's simple.

He was in his UNCLE'S CAR. They had gone for a drive.

I've been in Austria. It's an extremly small country and one can drive across it in a matter of hours.

They drove from his home area to a different area where they encountered the soviets.

No place in Arnold's words does it say that the Soviets were in his home area. No place does it say that they did NOT drive out of his home area.


6 posted on 09/04/2004 6:25:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Nothing in your quote is contradictory. He's speaking of when he went into the Soviet sector of Austria.


7 posted on 09/04/2004 6:25:05 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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Or just figure out when Arnold was talking about seeing soviet tanks...


I believe it involved a truck ride into the soviet sector with his uncle and father.


8 posted on 09/04/2004 6:25:08 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

DON'T BE A HISTORY GIRLIE MAN!


9 posted on 09/04/2004 6:25:25 AM PDT by Shortwave (Supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor.)
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What were Soviet tanks doing in Austria's British-occupied sector?

You would like an explanation?

How about being as confused as poor Klinton was when he saw the churches of black Arkansans being torched?

10 posted on 09/04/2004 6:25:26 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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"I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector. "
11 posted on 09/04/2004 6:26:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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...I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector...

This is also what Arnold said...Why don't you contact Slate and ask 'em why they didn't include that part of his speech?

12 posted on 09/04/2004 6:26:33 AM PDT by Drango (Kerry is french toast.)
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To: tame

LOL, Remember Clintons memories of black churches being firebombed in Arkansaw?


13 posted on 09/04/2004 6:26:49 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot ("I think the Americans are serious this time" Uday Hussein, 9th Circle of Hell)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Arnold never mentioned seeing Soviet tanks in Styria.


14 posted on 09/04/2004 6:27:54 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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Here is a clue . . .

I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector.

15 posted on 09/04/2004 6:28:26 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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Which part is BS--Arnold or the historian? South Eastern Austria borders--Hungary, Yugoslavia & Czechoslovakia--ALL which were Soviet satellite countries when Arnold was young. Why would it be surprising if he saw communism first hand?


16 posted on 09/04/2004 6:28:44 AM PDT by madison10
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Remember Clintons memories of black churches being firebombed in Arkansaw?

Yup. And then there was AlGore's "childhood" memory of that Union song .... "Look for the Union label..."

17 posted on 09/04/2004 6:28:58 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Shortwave

Has anyone yet pointed out that the whole "girlieman" thing is actually from a Saturday Night Live parody of Arnold - Hans and Franz? Is it not strange that he is still using it? It is not something he ever said in a movie, it belongs to Dana Carvey.


18 posted on 09/04/2004 6:29:00 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Tax Energy not Labor)
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To: madison10

Read my posts and you'll know where I stand on this......


19 posted on 09/04/2004 6:29:22 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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Give me a break, he never traveled outside his own province????

The liberals are getting so desperate!! LOL!


20 posted on 09/04/2004 6:29:28 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Donate to the SwiftVets!)
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