Posted on 09/06/2004 2:51:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Kitty has the wrong mud for the wrong candidate. She has a history of being wrong. Even if true, her charges (from what I've heard) are old and predate GWB's conversion - that even his enemies concede is real. It involves a man most Americans like and believe well intentioned. And it is thrown on behalf of a party that backed Bill and the WH sink.
And Kerry is so arrogant, he'll probably back her charges. I used to think this would be a 1-2 point election, but I hadn't counted on how breath-takingly out of touch JFK is...
They're going to Florida, they're going to PA. Don't these people have JOBS to go to???
Kerry is so self-involved and in love with himself he believed he could win hands down. He's gotten away with his atrocities for so long, largely unchallenged, he thought he would glide into office. I am so glad the swift boat vets came out when they did, because Kerry made a life of taking both sides to catapult his career. Reading their book is really eye opening to how smarmy a character he is.
"These young liberals were especially upset when Bush talked about *Liberty Century*: 'Liberty? Who needs that? WE should decide how you live your lives and how you spend your money. After all, we know better than you do.'"
Get ready for the all out attack from the media maggots with "Kitty Kelly's book smear of the entire Bush family coming out on Sept. 15th".
They are desperate and unable to change their tactics. All the morning shows, the View, the Nightlines, NYT editorials and the ever famous anti-Bush 60 minutes will run with this garbage.
It is imperative that we nail this with TRUTH and FACTS on the Internet ,Talk radio and FOX. That is what has sunk Kerry and will continue to destroy him.
Also be ready for the countdown and the shark frenzy that will come if we reach a 1000 dead. They will throw that chum out to weaken the country's resolve and sound the retreat.
Remember Putin's "We showed weakness".
If it aint close, THEY can't cheat.
Professional (albeit low paid) protesters...
FOX NEWS interviewed one in NY City...asked him what it was he was protesting about...
His answer "I don't know....they haven't told us yet"
I have news for the weak minded folks saying they are going to Florida to help get out the John Kerry vote. Save your money and energy and stay home. GW Bush is going to carry Florida big time like 56%-40%. And....just wait, the SWBVs are not yet through with liar and traitor John Kerry. There is more to come. Maybe you "emotional" Democrats will learn that the likes of people like John Kerry, Howard Dean, etc, are born losers with the American people. Not only is Kerry going down big time, but so is the Democrat Party. I suggest you stay in your home states and try to avoid the destruction of your political power that is coming!!!
I have news for the weak minded folks saying they are going to Florida to help get out the John Kerry vote. Save your money and energy and stay home. GW Bush is going to carry Florida big time like 56%-40%. And....just wait, the SWBVs are not yet through with liar and traitor John Kerry. There is more to come. Maybe you "emotional" Democrats will learn that the likes of people like John Kerry, Howard Dean, etc, are born losers with the American people. Not only is Kerry going down big time, but so is the Democrat Party. I suggest you stay in your home states and try to avoid the destruction of your political power that is coming!!!
"Even Larry King, who has always had Kitty Kelly on his program....doesn't want her on"
That's because he knows that President Bush will be re-elected. He doesn't want to alienate himself from the winner. That is why we don't see the "usual suspects" out there promoting Kerry. They all hid when the tide turned. If these fair weather friends come out of hiding, then we will know that the tide has turned again. I haven't seen any politicians, who are running for re-election, speak out for Kerry lately. This phenomenon is similiar to what happens to a person who is about to be fired from his job. Co-workers will start to avoid him because they have heard the rumors. That's a sign to start looking for another job.
"That's because he knows that President Bush will be re-elected. He doesn't want to alienate himself from the winner."
Spot on in your analysis, toomany. You hit the nail on the head.
Clinton said not to talk about Vietnam anymore.Well, he opened that can of worms. The swifties are just getting started.America needs to know what this man did to his fellow soldiers for his own political gain
Are you a Daughter of the American Revolution? I see you joined Free Republic on Jefferson's birthday.
<< Jeri Famighetti .... [Spent] the day stumping for Kerry. Her sense of urgency is so great that this is the first campaign she's worked on since Hubert Humphrey's against Richard Nixon! >>
Good little "DemocRAT."
Takes a terrible lickin' and takes only thirty-five years to again start tickin'!
Just in time for the mother of lickin's!!!!!
It probably won't do any good, but I sent an email to the author of this article. I know it is like howling in the wind, but if Ronald Reagan could laugh on the operating table after having been shot, we should try to keep our humor even in the face of the Kerry campaign. (And we should also remember that Reagan prevailed in the end)
The meat of the message to the democrats:
Hope and Hype will not do it. The argument is not that Bush is perfect. The argument is whether or not Kerry would be worse. – the democratic convention slogan “Anybody but Bush” may make the DNC leaders hearts swell with pride, but the electorate across the country is appalled by it. Even in the view of many traditional democrats the nomination of Kerry only proves that you actually mean it.
There are many flaws in the democratic war plan, but the worst is that it is transparent. I am not trying to be sarcastic or trying to “flame” you for fun, but believing something so strongly that you are convinced that “the rest of the world really feel the same way but is too stupid to realize it” is not the way to win them over.
The central message that came out of the Democratic Convention (including the effect of the spinning-talking-heads of the news media was:
“The Democratic delegates are overwhelmingly opposed to the use of military force (especially in Iraq) [by a margin of 70-80% - possibly even higher] to deal with the terrorist threat. George Bush, Dick Cheney and their henchmen planned the war from 1996 on to justify the Halliburton Scam. Shrub and Company brought 911 upon us by their failure to support the noble freedom fighters of Palestine against Jewish terrorist attacks thereby invoking the justifiable killing of 3000 US citizens. Michael Moore got it right – Bush is a lazy, inarticulate know-nothing , golfing through Iraq like Nero fiddled through the burning of Rome. Let’s rub it in the nose of the American public by giving Moore a prominent seat next to Jimmy Carter. We need to get out of Iraq right now – with the aid and assistance of the real hope of the world (the UN and French diplomacy)"
SO: “Let’s nominate John F. Kerry (aka JFK the famous man in the boat) on a platform (in lieu of any known Democratic party platform) of a strong, manly, forceful but diplomatic, defense of freedom. A man who will not reject the advice of our military leaders like George Bush does. [The same military leaders that directed our military to rape, pillage, cut off ears and genitals, burn villages, etc., like the armies of Genghis Khan --- who as you may recall, Kerry has said he will not use except at the direction of he United Nations]
In a Nutshell:
“Lets all work to elect John Kerry on a platform of winning the war, a strong military, victory (really) in Iraq, because we know in our hearts that he is only saying these things because he thinks the American electorate will believe him (they are such a bunch of ignorant-unwashed, Limbaugh-loving-dittoheads) and we know in our heart that he is lying and we can depend on him to break these stupid promises as soon as we have power back from the Republican idiots.)“
You (the “democrats”) are probably loathe to accept advice from the other camp, and we (the rest of America – not necessarily republicans) are loathe to give it, but the last thing America needs right now is one party government. Historically (at least pre-LBJ) American political races have been between two more or less equally acceptable candidates with the public voting on the fine points of their individual political beliefs. Either candidate, if elected, could be depended upon to subordinate economic and philosophical goals to national survival. Both believed in the same core values – at least in those core values that set us apart from continental Europeans.
The speech by Zell Miller infuriated democrats like yourself, but I imagine my father or my father-in-law, neither of whom ever voted for a non-democrat and neither of whom ever failed to vote in a national election, would, were they still living, have been standing, cheering with tears of joy running down their faces, as they listened to it.
Miller’s message sounds wild-eyed and rabid only to audiences accustomed to the focus-group “would it play on Oprah?” info-mercial mentality of TV spin-doctors and their willing spin-victims. At a real political convention (i.e., a convention held or the purpose of hammering out a platform and choosing a candidate to take it to the people) it would have been seen exactly as the lifelong democrat Miller intended it. – a heartfelt, if emotional, plea for a return to sanity by the democratic party, a return which would prevent a very large segment of its base from breaking away to either join the republicans or try to establish a new and revitalized democratic party (one which will require years of hard work to bring back to national power.)
The single most effective line voiced at the Republican Convention: “When I hear American soldiers referred to as “occupiers” rather than “liberators” it makes [every decent American’s] blood boil!” *
The closest historical precedent for what the Democratic Party now resembles is the Whig Party in the throes of its dissolution.
“The period between 1964 and 1980 represents a ‘cultural discontinuity’ in American history unlike any other in the entire history of the country.” **
A very large segment of the democratic base that existed during that cultural gap has returned to normal, but the leadership of the party as manifested by the recent Democratic Convention has not figured that out.
FDR, HST, the real JFK, HHH and a host of honorable democratic statesmen (the phrase sounds oxymoronic today - but they were that) could – and given the opportunity probably would – deliver exactly the same message as did Zell Miller. They might have been a bit more graceful. But the meat of their message would have been exactly the same.
* I would have liked it if he[Miller] had amended the phrase thus: “….occupiers, rapists, murderers, ….etc., like the pillaging armies of Genghis Kahn…”
** [I could provide the author of this quote, but he is hated by the democratic leadership almost as much as is George Bush. I’ll give you a hint: He is a well known politician, historian and college professor and his “college course” from which the near exact quote is taken is widely available in print and on video tape.]
It probably won't do any good, but I sent an email to the author of this article. I know it is like howling in the wind, but if Ronald Reagan could laugh on the operating table after having been shot, we should try to keep our humor even in the face of the Kerry campaign. (And we should also remember that Reagan prevailed in the end)
The meat of the message to the democrats:
Hope and Hype will not do it. The argument is not that Bush is perfect. The argument is whether or not Kerry would be worse. – the democratic convention slogan “Anybody but Bush” may make the DNC leaders hearts swell with pride, but the electorate across the country is appalled by it. Even in the view of many traditional democrats the nomination of Kerry only proves that you actually mean it.
There are many flaws in the democratic war plan, but the worst is that it is transparent. I am not trying to be sarcastic or trying to “flame” you for fun, but believing something so strongly that you are convinced that “the rest of the world really feel the same way but is too stupid to realize it” is not the way to win them over.
The central message that came out of the Democratic Convention (including the effect of the spinning-talking-heads of the news media was:
“The Democratic delegates are overwhelmingly opposed to the use of military force (especially in Iraq) [by a margin of 70-80% - possibly even higher] to deal with the terrorist threat. George Bush, Dick Cheney and their henchmen planned the war from 1996 on to justify the Halliburton Scam. Shrub and Company brought 911 upon us by their failure to support the noble freedom fighters of Palestine against Jewish terrorist attacks thereby invoking the justifiable killing of 3000 US citizens. Michael Moore got it right – Bush is a lazy, inarticulate know-nothing , golfing through Iraq like Nero fiddled through the burning of Rome. Let’s rub it in the nose of the American public by giving Moore a prominent seat next to Jimmy Carter. We need to get out of Iraq right now – with the aid and assistance of the real hope of the world (the UN and French diplomacy)"
SO: “Let’s nominate John F. Kerry (aka JFK the famous man in the boat) on a platform (in lieu of any known Democratic party platform) of a strong, manly, forceful but diplomatic, defense of freedom. A man who will not reject the advice of our military leaders like George Bush does. [The same military leaders that directed our military to rape, pillage, cut off ears and genitals, burn villages, etc., like the armies of Genghis Khan --- who as you may recall, Kerry has said he will not use except at the direction of he United Nations]
In a Nutshell:
“Lets all work to elect John Kerry on a platform of winning the war, a strong military, victory (really) in Iraq, because we know in our hearts that he is only saying these things because he thinks the American electorate will believe him (they are such a bunch of ignorant-unwashed, Limbaugh-loving-dittoheads) and we know in our heart that he is lying and we can depend on him to break these stupid promises as soon as we have power back from the Republican idiots.)“
You (the “democrats”) are probably loathe to accept advice from the other camp, and we (the rest of America – not necessarily republicans) are loathe to give it, but the last thing America needs right now is one party government. Historically (at least pre-LBJ) American political races have been between two more or less equally acceptable candidates with the public voting on the fine points of their individual political beliefs. Either candidate, if elected, could be depended upon to subordinate economic and philosophical goals to national survival. Both believed in the same core values – at least in those core values that set us apart from continental Europeans.
The speech by Zell Miller infuriated democrats like yourself, but I imagine my father or my father-in-law, neither of whom ever voted for a non-democrat and neither of whom ever failed to vote in a national election, would, were they still living, have been standing, cheering with tears of joy running down their faces, as they listened to it.
Miller’s message sounds wild-eyed and rabid only to audiences accustomed to the focus-group “would it play on Oprah?” info-mercial mentality of TV spin-doctors and their willing spin-victims. At a real political convention (i.e., a convention held or the purpose of hammering out a platform and choosing a candidate to take it to the people) it would have been seen exactly as the lifelong democrat Miller intended it. – a heartfelt, if emotional, plea for a return to sanity by the democratic party, a return which would prevent a very large segment of its base from breaking away to either join the republicans or try to establish a new and revitalized democratic party (one which will require years of hard work to bring back to national power.)
The single most effective line voiced at the Republican Convention: “When I hear American soldiers referred to as “occupiers” rather than “liberators” it makes [every decent American’s] blood boil!” *
The closest historical precedent for what the Democratic Party now resembles is the Whig Party in the throes of its dissolution.
“The period between 1964 and 1980 represents a ‘cultural discontinuity’ in American history unlike any other in the entire history of the country.” **
A very large segment of the democratic base that existed during that cultural gap has returned to normal, but the leadership of the party as manifested by the recent Democratic Convention has not figured that out.
FDR, HST, the real JFK, HHH and a host of honorable democratic statesmen (the phrase sounds oxymoronic today - but they were that) could – and given the opportunity probably would – deliver exactly the same message as did Zell Miller. They might have been a bit more graceful. But the meat of their message would have been exactly the same.
* I would have liked it if he[Miller] had amended the phrase thus: “….occupiers, rapists, murderers, ….etc., like the pillaging armies of Genghis Kahn…”
** [I could provide the author of this quote, but he is hated by the democratic leadership almost as much as is George Bush. I’ll give you a hint: He is a well known politician, historian and college professor and his “college course” from which the near exact quote is taken is widely available in print and on video tape.]
Senator Spitball reporting to the election SIR! Bwahahahaha!
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