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1 posted on 09/06/2004 2:51:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Let 'em weep. There's no "milk of human kindness" left in me for those who have relentlessly trashed our President.


2 posted on 09/06/2004 2:55:35 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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The downside of last week's convention was that the Republicans performed brilliantly. The upside is that it may finally have lit a fire under John Kerry.

As far as I'm concerned that is backwards:

The upside of last week's convention was that the Republicans performed brilliantly. The downside is that it may finally have lit a fire under John Kerry.

3 posted on 09/06/2004 2:58:27 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Michael Steele ... WOW!)
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To read the latest on the Franchurian Candidate's bizzare exploits, click the picture, goto "last," and work backwards:

Take a look at these three short video clips, especially the last one. You will walk away with a heavy heart.

POW'S TELL ABOUT TORTURE

5 posted on 09/06/2004 3:14:22 AM PDT by backhoe
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.....500 other New Yorkers who boarded buses headed to Pennsylvania to spend the day stumping for Kerry.

Just what we need in PA, 500 more screamers without a message.

6 posted on 09/06/2004 3:18:43 AM PDT by SpeakingUp (Kerry lied, Liberals lied, The NYT lied, and 1,800,000 Cambodians DIED)
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Angry Democrats mix despair with hope

Yielding a fine broth of malaise.

8 posted on 09/06/2004 3:21:59 AM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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In short the Dems are hoping some disaster will happen to our country to help Kerry. What a bunch of scoundrels. But really the Dems have no message except doom and gloom. They are almost totally unable to say the truth: American is a great country. A country that is not perfect (like all countries), but still a country that is a great place to live and prosper.

Actually Dems and liberals are the biggest pessimists around despite the fact that most of them live very good lives. Beats me why they complain. I guess they expect perfection which is quite unobtainable. Hey Dems, change the doom and gloom message and (1) admit that you live in a great country and (2) start observing that we are at war with a foe that is determined to exterminate us. That just might be a message that "resonates" with Americans.

9 posted on 09/06/2004 3:30:33 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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Didn't see the msm say that hanoi john and the dnc attacked GW. There's no bias in the press..that's just a myth.


13 posted on 09/06/2004 4:35:53 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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The liberals just do not get it. The "attacks" on John Kerry were legitimate and focused solely on his Senate voting record--there were no personal attacks regarding his wife nor VietNam.

Liberals cannot tolerate opposition.


18 posted on 09/06/2004 4:59:24 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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They're going to Florida, they're going to PA. Don't these people have JOBS to go to???


22 posted on 09/06/2004 5:15:58 AM PDT by 2-in-Texas
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a group of young Democrats watched Bush's speech on three plasma screen TVs, they booed as the president ticked off the points of an agenda that is growing increasingly more conservative, ......

"These young liberals were especially upset when Bush talked about *Liberty Century*: 'Liberty? Who needs that? WE should decide how you live your lives and how you spend your money. After all, we know better than you do.'"

24 posted on 09/06/2004 5:20:05 AM PDT by John Thornton
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Melanie McEvoy, 35, and Jeff Altman, 38, both told me they had decided on the spot to go to Florida a week before the election to help bring out the Kerry vote.

If it aint close, THEY can't cheat.

26 posted on 09/06/2004 5:54:04 AM PDT by PokeyJoe (The plural for RAT is RATS, not RATICS)
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I have news for the weak minded folks saying they are going to Florida to help get out the John Kerry vote. Save your money and energy and stay home. GW Bush is going to carry Florida big time like 56%-40%. And....just wait, the SWBVs are not yet through with liar and traitor John Kerry. There is more to come. Maybe you "emotional" Democrats will learn that the likes of people like John Kerry, Howard Dean, etc, are born losers with the American people. Not only is Kerry going down big time, but so is the Democrat Party. I suggest you stay in your home states and try to avoid the destruction of your political power that is coming!!!


28 posted on 09/06/2004 6:01:30 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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I have news for the weak minded folks saying they are going to Florida to help get out the John Kerry vote. Save your money and energy and stay home. GW Bush is going to carry Florida big time like 56%-40%. And....just wait, the SWBVs are not yet through with liar and traitor John Kerry. There is more to come. Maybe you "emotional" Democrats will learn that the likes of people like John Kerry, Howard Dean, etc, are born losers with the American people. Not only is Kerry going down big time, but so is the Democrat Party. I suggest you stay in your home states and try to avoid the destruction of your political power that is coming!!!


29 posted on 09/06/2004 6:02:32 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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Talk to Democrats almost anywhere, and you hear their desperation over this campaign.

If you surf the DU site, they're already mixing up the purple Kool-Aid.
Some really sick minds over there.
34 posted on 09/06/2004 6:42:17 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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... And the downside of the upside is that he is tied to a post stuck in the ground, surrounded by piles of firewood. lol. - The firewood being veterans' opinion of peaceniks who call them war criminals, and the post being the whole Vietnam issue...
35 posted on 09/06/2004 6:46:02 AM PDT by JasonC
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<< Jeri Famighetti .... [Spent] the day stumping for Kerry. Her sense of urgency is so great that this is the first campaign she's worked on since Hubert Humphrey's against Richard Nixon! >>

Good little "DemocRAT."

Takes a terrible lickin' and takes only thirty-five years to again start tickin'!

Just in time for the mother of lickin's!!!!!


37 posted on 09/06/2004 9:27:24 AM PDT by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a hyphenated American -- An AMERICAN-American -- AND A Dollar-a-Day FReeper!)
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It probably won't do any good, but I sent an email to the author of this article. I know it is like howling in the wind, but if Ronald Reagan could laugh on the operating table after having been shot, we should try to keep our humor even in the face of the Kerry campaign. (And we should also remember that Reagan prevailed in the end)

The meat of the message to the democrats:

Hope and Hype will not do it. The argument is not that Bush is perfect. The argument is whether or not Kerry would be worse. – the democratic convention slogan “Anybody but Bush” may make the DNC leaders hearts swell with pride, but the electorate across the country is appalled by it. Even in the view of many traditional democrats the nomination of Kerry only proves that you actually mean it.

There are many flaws in the democratic war plan, but the worst is that it is transparent. I am not trying to be sarcastic or trying to “flame” you for fun, but believing something so strongly that you are convinced that “the rest of the world really feel the same way but is too stupid to realize it” is not the way to win them over.

The central message that came out of the Democratic Convention (including the effect of the spinning-talking-heads of the news media was:

“The Democratic delegates are overwhelmingly opposed to the use of military force (especially in Iraq) [by a margin of 70-80% - possibly even higher] to deal with the terrorist threat. George Bush, Dick Cheney and their henchmen planned the war from 1996 on to justify the Halliburton Scam. Shrub and Company brought 911 upon us by their failure to support the noble freedom fighters of Palestine against Jewish terrorist attacks thereby invoking the justifiable killing of 3000 US citizens. Michael Moore got it right – Bush is a lazy, inarticulate know-nothing , golfing through Iraq like Nero fiddled through the burning of Rome. Let’s rub it in the nose of the American public by giving Moore a prominent seat next to Jimmy Carter. We need to get out of Iraq right now – with the aid and assistance of the real hope of the world (the UN and French diplomacy)"

SO: “Let’s nominate John F. Kerry (aka JFK the famous man in the boat) on a platform (in lieu of any known Democratic party platform) of a strong, manly, forceful but diplomatic, defense of freedom. A man who will not reject the advice of our military leaders like George Bush does. [The same military leaders that directed our military to rape, pillage, cut off ears and genitals, burn villages, etc., like the armies of Genghis Khan --- who as you may recall, Kerry has said he will not use except at the direction of he United Nations]

In a Nutshell:

“Lets all work to elect John Kerry on a platform of winning the war, a strong military, victory (really) in Iraq, because we know in our hearts that he is only saying these things because he thinks the American electorate will believe him (they are such a bunch of ignorant-unwashed, Limbaugh-loving-dittoheads) and we know in our heart that he is lying and we can depend on him to break these stupid promises as soon as we have power back from the Republican idiots.)“

You (the “democrats”) are probably loathe to accept advice from the other camp, and we (the rest of America – not necessarily republicans) are loathe to give it, but the last thing America needs right now is one party government. Historically (at least pre-LBJ) American political races have been between two more or less equally acceptable candidates with the public voting on the fine points of their individual political beliefs. Either candidate, if elected, could be depended upon to subordinate economic and philosophical goals to national survival. Both believed in the same core values – at least in those core values that set us apart from continental Europeans.

The speech by Zell Miller infuriated democrats like yourself, but I imagine my father or my father-in-law, neither of whom ever voted for a non-democrat and neither of whom ever failed to vote in a national election, would, were they still living, have been standing, cheering with tears of joy running down their faces, as they listened to it.

Miller’s message sounds wild-eyed and rabid only to audiences accustomed to the focus-group “would it play on Oprah?” info-mercial mentality of TV spin-doctors and their willing spin-victims. At a real political convention (i.e., a convention held or the purpose of hammering out a platform and choosing a candidate to take it to the people) it would have been seen exactly as the lifelong democrat Miller intended it. – a heartfelt, if emotional, plea for a return to sanity by the democratic party, a return which would prevent a very large segment of its base from breaking away to either join the republicans or try to establish a new and revitalized democratic party (one which will require years of hard work to bring back to national power.)

The single most effective line voiced at the Republican Convention: “When I hear American soldiers referred to as “occupiers” rather than “liberators” it makes [every decent American’s] blood boil!” *

The closest historical precedent for what the Democratic Party now resembles is the Whig Party in the throes of its dissolution.

“The period between 1964 and 1980 represents a ‘cultural discontinuity’ in American history unlike any other in the entire history of the country.” **

A very large segment of the democratic base that existed during that cultural gap has returned to normal, but the leadership of the party as manifested by the recent Democratic Convention has not figured that out.

FDR, HST, the real JFK, HHH and a host of honorable democratic statesmen (the phrase sounds oxymoronic today - but they were that) could – and given the opportunity probably would – deliver exactly the same message as did Zell Miller. They might have been a bit more graceful. But the meat of their message would have been exactly the same.

* I would have liked it if he[Miller] had amended the phrase thus: “….occupiers, rapists, murderers, ….etc., like the pillaging armies of Genghis Kahn…”

** [I could provide the author of this quote, but he is hated by the democratic leadership almost as much as is George Bush. I’ll give you a hint: He is a well known politician, historian and college professor and his “college course” from which the near exact quote is taken is widely available in print and on video tape.]


38 posted on 09/06/2004 10:31:47 AM PDT by Jerry W. Howard
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It probably won't do any good, but I sent an email to the author of this article. I know it is like howling in the wind, but if Ronald Reagan could laugh on the operating table after having been shot, we should try to keep our humor even in the face of the Kerry campaign. (And we should also remember that Reagan prevailed in the end)

The meat of the message to the democrats:

Hope and Hype will not do it. The argument is not that Bush is perfect. The argument is whether or not Kerry would be worse. – the democratic convention slogan “Anybody but Bush” may make the DNC leaders hearts swell with pride, but the electorate across the country is appalled by it. Even in the view of many traditional democrats the nomination of Kerry only proves that you actually mean it.

There are many flaws in the democratic war plan, but the worst is that it is transparent. I am not trying to be sarcastic or trying to “flame” you for fun, but believing something so strongly that you are convinced that “the rest of the world really feel the same way but is too stupid to realize it” is not the way to win them over.

The central message that came out of the Democratic Convention (including the effect of the spinning-talking-heads of the news media was:

“The Democratic delegates are overwhelmingly opposed to the use of military force (especially in Iraq) [by a margin of 70-80% - possibly even higher] to deal with the terrorist threat. George Bush, Dick Cheney and their henchmen planned the war from 1996 on to justify the Halliburton Scam. Shrub and Company brought 911 upon us by their failure to support the noble freedom fighters of Palestine against Jewish terrorist attacks thereby invoking the justifiable killing of 3000 US citizens. Michael Moore got it right – Bush is a lazy, inarticulate know-nothing , golfing through Iraq like Nero fiddled through the burning of Rome. Let’s rub it in the nose of the American public by giving Moore a prominent seat next to Jimmy Carter. We need to get out of Iraq right now – with the aid and assistance of the real hope of the world (the UN and French diplomacy)"

SO: “Let’s nominate John F. Kerry (aka JFK the famous man in the boat) on a platform (in lieu of any known Democratic party platform) of a strong, manly, forceful but diplomatic, defense of freedom. A man who will not reject the advice of our military leaders like George Bush does. [The same military leaders that directed our military to rape, pillage, cut off ears and genitals, burn villages, etc., like the armies of Genghis Khan --- who as you may recall, Kerry has said he will not use except at the direction of he United Nations]

In a Nutshell:

“Lets all work to elect John Kerry on a platform of winning the war, a strong military, victory (really) in Iraq, because we know in our hearts that he is only saying these things because he thinks the American electorate will believe him (they are such a bunch of ignorant-unwashed, Limbaugh-loving-dittoheads) and we know in our heart that he is lying and we can depend on him to break these stupid promises as soon as we have power back from the Republican idiots.)“

You (the “democrats”) are probably loathe to accept advice from the other camp, and we (the rest of America – not necessarily republicans) are loathe to give it, but the last thing America needs right now is one party government. Historically (at least pre-LBJ) American political races have been between two more or less equally acceptable candidates with the public voting on the fine points of their individual political beliefs. Either candidate, if elected, could be depended upon to subordinate economic and philosophical goals to national survival. Both believed in the same core values – at least in those core values that set us apart from continental Europeans.

The speech by Zell Miller infuriated democrats like yourself, but I imagine my father or my father-in-law, neither of whom ever voted for a non-democrat and neither of whom ever failed to vote in a national election, would, were they still living, have been standing, cheering with tears of joy running down their faces, as they listened to it.

Miller’s message sounds wild-eyed and rabid only to audiences accustomed to the focus-group “would it play on Oprah?” info-mercial mentality of TV spin-doctors and their willing spin-victims. At a real political convention (i.e., a convention held or the purpose of hammering out a platform and choosing a candidate to take it to the people) it would have been seen exactly as the lifelong democrat Miller intended it. – a heartfelt, if emotional, plea for a return to sanity by the democratic party, a return which would prevent a very large segment of its base from breaking away to either join the republicans or try to establish a new and revitalized democratic party (one which will require years of hard work to bring back to national power.)

The single most effective line voiced at the Republican Convention: “When I hear American soldiers referred to as “occupiers” rather than “liberators” it makes [every decent American’s] blood boil!” *

The closest historical precedent for what the Democratic Party now resembles is the Whig Party in the throes of its dissolution.

“The period between 1964 and 1980 represents a ‘cultural discontinuity’ in American history unlike any other in the entire history of the country.” **

A very large segment of the democratic base that existed during that cultural gap has returned to normal, but the leadership of the party as manifested by the recent Democratic Convention has not figured that out.

FDR, HST, the real JFK, HHH and a host of honorable democratic statesmen (the phrase sounds oxymoronic today - but they were that) could – and given the opportunity probably would – deliver exactly the same message as did Zell Miller. They might have been a bit more graceful. But the meat of their message would have been exactly the same.

* I would have liked it if he[Miller] had amended the phrase thus: “….occupiers, rapists, murderers, ….etc., like the pillaging armies of Genghis Kahn…”

** [I could provide the author of this quote, but he is hated by the democratic leadership almost as much as is George Bush. I’ll give you a hint: He is a well known politician, historian and college professor and his “college course” from which the near exact quote is taken is widely available in print and on video tape.]


39 posted on 09/06/2004 10:36:31 AM PDT by Jerry W. Howard
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Senator Spitball reporting to the election SIR! Bwahahahaha!


40 posted on 09/06/2004 10:37:54 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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The upside is that it may finally have lit a fire under John Kerry.

Translation: sKerry is burning himself at the stake.

41 posted on 09/06/2004 10:49:11 AM PDT by There's millions of'em (Terayza Heinze owns the MSM,.. but it was a small investment.)
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