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ZOT: Let's All Vote November 2! (Proposal for WORLD election)
07 September 2004 | Tahar Ben Jelloun

Posted on 09/08/2004 1:13:51 PM PDT by awesomechick

And what if, this coming November 2, at the same time as millions of Americans, all the world's peoples went to the ballot box to vote? There would be legitimacy in their participation in the election of the president of the world's greatest power. Simply because their lives, their future, depend on it in one way or another. It would be a symbolic gesture, a universal speech in observation of a fact and a direct and unambiguous way of saying that the fate of the world depends in large part on the American presidency. The Vietnamese and the Chileans at one time, the Iraqis today, know something about that.

According to whether the present president is beaten or reelected, the fate of hundreds of thousands of families in Iraq, in Palestine, in Israel, in the whole Middle East, in the Maghreb and in Africa, in Latin America, and in many other countries as well, will find itself changed. This is the only presidential election that concerns so many people outside of the country where it takes place. Far from being a matter that concerns Americans only, [the election result] comes into play in many domains, the most obvious and spectacular of which is the economy.

Let's not even talk about what's happening daily in Iraq. The Iraqis have begun a civil war that all observers had predicted before America and Great Britain's intervention in that country. The Iraqis as well as the Palestinians would have every legitimate reason to participate in the vote.

This does not mean that John Kerry, were he to be elected, will overturn the situation in Iraq, but I think that in any case, the evil has been done and it will be necessary for civilized countries to get together to repair the enormous damage caused by a power that based itself on lies and illegality to give some semblance of a justification for its policy.

Those who would rejoice in George W. Bush' reelection are Al-Qaeda's people- they've already said as much - because he's the one whose policies dovetail the best with their strategy. Hasn't the intervention in Iraq offered this movement's terrorists an opportunity to develop and to pass for resistance to a colonial occupation in the eyes of the Arab world?

If Bush is a misfortune for at least half of all Americans, he's a disaster for all those outside the United States who suffer the effects of his actions dictated by sketchy fundamentalist thinking.

As for the Palestinians, if they know that they will not receive justice at the end of a magic wand, even one held by Mr. Kerry, they now live the horrors of the Israeli occupation which is blessed and encouraged by Team Bush. Their fate has never been as dire as since Sharon and Bush's advent into power.

We are far from Jimmy Carter's will to peace, or even from Bill Clinton's late, but praiseworthy, attempts. However, the world knows now that without a negotiated solution between Palestinians and Israelis (the Geneva plan is still valid), the whole Middle East, whether large or small, will remain a place of murderous conflicts, blind violence, and a laboratory for all the terrorisms of despair or revenge, both individual and state terrorism.

A Pew Research Center study teaches that "foreign policy, for the first time since the Vietnam War, is ranked along with the economy as a top concern of Americans" (Le Monde, August 20). That's one more reason why the people whose fate depends on this policy should also get to choose the next United States' president. It would be the logical thing, even if itvseems strange and above all unrealizable. However, it could be a guideline vote, a sort of signal to the president elect.

If Bush wins, it won't do any good, since millions of Europeans took to the streets to demonstrate their opposition to the entry of American-British troops in Iraq, millions of voices were raised to warn Team Bush about the dangers of such a war, an illegitimate war in spite of all the horror of Saddam Hussein's system and of those like him in the region, but Bush and his team were contemptuous of this massive popular "vote" and overrode it. So it's useless to speak to a mulish man, a man under the worst of influences, those of ignorance and religion.

If his rival is elected, some hope is allowed, even if we know that a well-established tradition will give priority to American interests. And it would be right in this instance to favor those interests by withdrawing from Iraq, indemnifying this slaughtered people, by promoting a negotiated settlement in the Middle East as soon as possible, by acknowledging the mistakes and the digressions of a power that has abused its strength rather than respecting law and right.

Some Americans will never accept such interference in their political life. Why should a Bhopal Indian, an African from the former Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa), an Arab, or a European have anything to say about such an election? Simply because, when the United States of America decides to bring "democracy" into a dictatorship (as though democracy were a pill soluble in a country's water) they don't consult those who are principally involved; they don't listen to the message of millions of demonstrators,and they ignore the opinion of the United Nations. Because they must imagine that what is good for the United States can only benefit those whose destiny they manipulate. When they decide to intervene in a country, bringing their weapons and their baggage, they don't trouble themselves with learning what the population thinks of it.

The arrogance and the contempt they demonstrate towards others would be taught a good lesson if the world's leaders agreed to organize this symbolic vote this coming November 2. It would be like a will to independence and resistance in the face of an advancing hegemony wrapped up in some religious values, certain prejudices, and a few pretexts.


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To: trussell

I swear, everything from the Left is something I've read ad nauseum on the indymedias. They're nothing but sloganeers. yawn....


141 posted on 09/08/2004 8:31:59 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered.©)
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To: awesomechick

It is none of the "world's" business who we choose to be president. The idea that they get even a sumbolic sayso is ridiculous. I don't give a rat's butt what the world thinks about us or our election.


142 posted on 09/08/2004 8:38:45 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: awesomechick
You asked for comments? OK, here's mine: That's gotta be, hands down, the stupidest POS I've ever read.
143 posted on 09/08/2004 8:40:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Dang!


144 posted on 09/08/2004 8:43:38 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered.©)
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To: awesomechick

Hey awefullchick!


145 posted on 09/09/2004 4:15:22 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: awesomechick
Let's not even talk about what's happening daily in Iraq.

Yeah, let's not because you don't have a clue, you mouth-breather.

You glean your information off of CNN and the like and I can tell you, it's pure fiction.

And your concept is as out there as that of any typical hairy Marxist.

146 posted on 09/09/2004 4:18:46 AM PDT by Allegra (Is what I'm living right now just going to be one big "mistaken recollection?")
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To: awesomechick
Those who would rejoice in George W. Bush' reelection are Al-Qaeda's people

You guys are so desperate. How much has that thought gained Kerry in the polls?

That's right... Kerry is slipping big time in the polls.

147 posted on 09/09/2004 4:23:01 AM PDT by Preachin' (Democrats are liars...)
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To: awesomechick

Click the pic!


148 posted on 09/09/2004 5:37:01 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I am not late for Zots, I have stealth Zot capability.....)
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To: awesomechick

Say it with me!!
"WHuuun Whirled! Whuuun Whirled!"


149 posted on 09/09/2004 5:39:36 AM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: awesomechick

As Rush says, history starts the day they are born.


150 posted on 09/09/2004 5:41:23 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: JoJo Gunn
He's movin' his lips. Must be lyin'! :^D

151 posted on 09/09/2004 6:12:27 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: DocRock
I've dug out from under Charley and helped my neighbors after Frances and now I'm watching Ivan.

Stay safe, DocRock.

152 posted on 09/09/2004 7:36:16 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: awesomechick
And what if, this coming November 2, at the same time as millions of Americans, all the world's peoples went to the ballot box to vote?

Actually, if most of the world could vote with their feet they would move here. Yes they would happily move to W’s America. They would welcome the opportunities and freedom this country provides. The same opportunities and freedoms you despise.

I have been doing research, did your mother use drugs during pregnancy?

153 posted on 09/09/2004 7:38:22 AM PDT by usurper
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To: MeekOneGOP
Please strive for accuracy. Motor Mouth looks like he's in slow motion.
154 posted on 09/09/2004 8:59:52 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered.©)
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To: JoJo Gunn
:^D

155 posted on 09/09/2004 9:58:47 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Old Sarge; Zavien Doombringer; MeekOneGOP; JoJo Gunn

Was searching through old Zotted trolls, and ran across Burkeman1's statement to the effect:
It disappeared because it was most likely a 15 year old dud shell from the Iran/Iraq war that was scavanged by some scrubs to use an IED.

84 posted on 05/22/2004 11:12:25 PM EDT by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)


What troll recently tried to say that the Sarin IED was an expended shell?
Noticed that Burke said that earlier this year in the above quoted post.
Makes me wonder if some of our more rabid trolls lately have been JohnGalt and Burkeman1 trying to disrupt like they used to prior to banning.


156 posted on 09/09/2004 2:15:09 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: Darksheare; Zavien Doombringer; MeekOneGOP; JoJo Gunn
Makes me wonder if some of our more rabid trolls lately have been JohnGalt and Burkeman1 trying to disrupt like they used to prior to banning.

I've noticed familiar spoor in tracking trolls, myself - Bogdan and Sabertooth, to be precise...

Periodic disruption raids are part of the profile, that's certain.

Be Vigilant.

157 posted on 09/09/2004 6:48:46 PM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Old Sarge

Understood.


158 posted on 09/09/2004 8:04:42 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: awesomechick
1 posted on 09/08/2004 3:13:52 PM CDT by awesomechick

Should Read:

1 posted on 09/08/2004 3:13:52 PM CDT by awesomeIDIOT


159 posted on 09/09/2004 8:14:31 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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