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To: Jaysun
The Apostle Paul was known as "Saul from Tarsus". Looking at the map it appears that his home city was in modern Turkey. His missionary trips to the cities of Galatia and Ephesus are also in Turkey. He established Christianity there, but the area has been lost to Islam.

So how do we get Christianity back into Turkey?
Since Christianity didn't enter Turkey via military action, how could the "Crusades, part II" be the right answer?

God must raise up leaders and begin an awakening. There is a wonderful liberation in store for those who turn to Christ. That is what I am praying for.

5 posted on 09/09/2004 2:24:47 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: ThirstyMan
The muslim occupation of Western Europe had to be defeated through combat.

The chutzpah shown by modern muslims has them requesting the Vatican to approve muslim prayer services in an "ancient" muslim mosque that was replaced by a Catholic church. The press neglected to mention that the mosque was formerly a Catholic church that had been destroyed when the muslims conquered Spain.

Look at Ask the Imam. They say that slavery is still permissible if the slaves are seized in jihad (holy war) and if they are divided up in a "muslim territory". Spain was used to establish a Western capital for Islam. That they see territories marked by faith tells me all I need to know about the true nature of their religion.

6 posted on 09/09/2004 2:44:28 AM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: ThirstyMan
Since Christianity didn't enter Turkey via military action, how could the "Crusades, part II" be the right answer?

I said that jokingly. However, Christianity did enter other regions via military action. Remember Constantine? In October, 312AD He had a vision in which he and his army saw the sign of the cross emblazoned across the sky and the words "In hoc signo vinces" (In this sign you will win.) He had the cross inscribed on his soldiers' armor. He went into battle and even though his forces were outnumbered, he won. Then Christianity became the official religion of the empire.

The wrong answer to this problem is to accept Islam as just another religion that deserves the same respect as Christianity. It's a cult and the ones that won't be converted must be killed. Christians are their sworn enemy.

I agree with you that God must raise up leaders and begin an awakening. For those that won't awake, I feel like the sword is appropriate.
8 posted on 09/09/2004 2:58:23 AM PDT by Jaysun (The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action)
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To: ThirstyMan
So how do we get Christianity back into Turkey? Since Christianity didn't enter Turkey via military action, how could the "Crusades, part II" be the right answer? God must raise up leaders and begin an awakening. There is a wonderful liberation in store for those who turn to Christ. That is what I am praying for.

The Christian Church in Turkey is growing today and is poised for exponential expansion. In fact, they have even sent missionaries to other LESS enlightened countries! For reasons of safety & confidentiality I cannot share any specific details. Keep your eyes on Anatolia! Met many solid Turkish believers on a recent trip to this very interesting land!
20 posted on 09/09/2004 3:53:42 AM PDT by Knute
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