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AP stands by its story about anti-Bush SEAL (Freeper Travis McGee mentioned)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9/13/04

Posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:11 PM PDT by ambrose

about anti-Bush SEAL

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Monday, September 13, 2004



ELECTION 2004
AP stands by its story
about anti-Bush SEAL

Man with Muslim name doesn't come up on search of elite sailors


Posted: September 13, 2004
4:06 p.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

An Associated Press reporter is standing by his story that describes an anti-Bush veteran as a former Navy SEAL in the face of questions about whether or not the man was in fact a member of the elite unit.

The reporter, Elliott Minor says the Albany, Ga., man, Ahmad Majied, doesn't show up on lists of former SEALs because he changed his name when he converted to Islam after leaving the Navy.

In a story reporting the reactions of U.S. military personnel and veterans to allegations that President Bush failed to perform to National Guard standards, Minor quotes several current and former military men. Here is an excerpt from the AP story:

Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.

Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years.

"He had enough money to get what he wanted," Majied said. "I think his main concern was not to go to Southeast Asia. I bet he never dreamed it would come back to haunt him."

After reading the account, Travis McGee, a poster on FreeRepublic.com, contacted an organization called AuthentiSEAL, which researches claims by people posing as Navy SEALs, to see if Majied indeed had been a SEAL. According to his post, McGee received a response from Gregory Platt, an investigator with the group, saying the name Ahmad Majied does not come up on a search of former SEALs.

McGee says he became suspicious of the claim when he read that Majied had been in Vietnam for five years.

"When this fake SEAL's claim of spending five years in Vietnam was pointed out to me, I knew he couldn't be for real," he writes at Free Republic. "SEALs deployed to VN for six month tours, so 'five years in Vietnam' seemed highly improbable. I knew lots of multiple tour 'real deal Vietnam SEALs' during my peacetime duty in the teams in the 1980s, and I never heard of this guy.

"This only took a couple of minutes time for 'amateurs' on Free Republic to check out. The 'professional' journalists at the AP must have been to busy to do this basic checking."

In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story.

"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. … There's a peace about his voice."

Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.

The AP reporter addressed McGee's criticism of spending five months in Vietnam, saying Majied told him he was based in the Philippines and would go to Vietnam for short stints and then return to the islands.

"Altogether it was probably five years [in Vietnam]," Minor said.

Minor spoke to Majied this afternoon to try to verify the issue, and he said the veteran has refused to speak to other media about the issue.

He said of the Majieds: "I've met them around town, and they're just nice people. … I just really think a lot of him."

Internet bloggers challenging the claims of mainstream media outlets has become more prevalent recently. It was on the Net where the first questions were raised about National Guard memos CBS News claims show that Bush's former commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, was resisting pressure from his superior, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, to "sugarcoat" Bush's officer evaluation files.

Document experts and amateur sleuths began questioning the memos' authenticity within hours after they were published on the Internet, citing typographical and formatting issues that suggest they were created by a modern-day word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter.

Despite the irregularities of the memos and the fact that a source CBS used to prove its case is saying the documents are forgeries, network anchor Dan Rather stands by the story he presented on "60 Minutes II" last week.

Related stories:

Bush Guard papers forged, says source

Rather backs docs on Evening News

Ben Barnes' daughter: Father lied about Bush

CBS News denies Bush docs forged


Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.



TOPICS: Free Republic; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ahmadmajied; ap; associatedpress; congrats; elliottminor; fakeseal; fakeseals; majied; medialies; mediots; minor; poorjournalism; seal; seals
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1 posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:13 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: Travis McGee

ping!


2 posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:33 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: ambrose

Wow, lots of Freepers being cited recently.


3 posted on 09/13/2004 1:45:32 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Travis McGee

nice work TM


4 posted on 09/13/2004 1:45:32 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: ambrose
AP backs the story even though they don't know this guy's name because the reporter "trusts" him after a phone interview??? I guess AP doesn't care how stupid it looks.
5 posted on 09/13/2004 1:46:48 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I have the "personal file" on Lt Bush. Shhhh, don't tell anyone.)
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To: ambrose

Well done!


6 posted on 09/13/2004 1:47:02 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought."-Pope JPII)
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To: ambrose

This former Air Force officer makes an open challenge to that former "Navy Seal." If he can kick my a ss, I'll believe him. What do you say, monkey-boy?


7 posted on 09/13/2004 1:47:08 PM PDT by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: ambrose
"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Now, that's some GOOD journalism. Just like the old profs at J-school used to teach.

8 posted on 09/13/2004 1:47:24 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: ambrose

time to check court records for a name change..


9 posted on 09/13/2004 1:47:39 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: ambrose

Is this a set up? Methinks they'd try it.


10 posted on 09/13/2004 1:48:21 PM PDT by Principled
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To: ambrose

Jounralists newest mantra: We trust anyone who discredits Bush, and distrust anyone who questions Kerry.


11 posted on 09/13/2004 1:48:21 PM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: ambrose
Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

A real investigative journalist would have asked the question and then tried to authenticate the name. Minor was obviously afraid of the answer, so he didn't ask.

12 posted on 09/13/2004 1:48:22 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: ambrose
"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

No further investigation necessary.

Case closed.

</sarcasm>

13 posted on 09/13/2004 1:48:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Hank All-American

Let's defeat them in the court of public opinion, not in street brawling.


14 posted on 09/13/2004 1:48:48 PM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: ambrose

"AP stands by its story about anti-Bush SEAL "

It's story is just what this guys said, and even if he's lying through his teeth, AP can be right in saying he said it. It appears they did nothing to check the story itself -

BTW if this guy was in the Philipines and Vietnam for over 5 years - just how does he have any first-hand knowledge of what Bush was doing ?


15 posted on 09/13/2004 1:48:54 PM PDT by RS (The Truth may be slimy, but it is never slime)
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To: ambrose

"In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story."

Well, that's nice. Now, to clear any misunderstanding up completely, what was the guys name prior to his conversion.

That would be the simplest route to ascertaining the truth, wouldn't it?

Or could it be that he refuses to give his original name because, gasp, it wouldn't be listed on the official Seal roster?


16 posted on 09/13/2004 1:49:02 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swallow leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: Travis McGee
Called 'em on their bullshit, Trav! Good on yer!

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

17 posted on 09/13/2004 1:49:10 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: ambrose
In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story.

"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Well, there you have it--the reporter "feels" that he was told the truth. No facts necessary when the feelin's right.

18 posted on 09/13/2004 1:49:22 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: ambrose

They are using a Muslim to bash Bush?
Am I missing something here?


19 posted on 09/13/2004 1:49:27 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: ambrose
Ah, I forgot The "Seems like a nice guy over the phone" Rule.

As long as you are polite to a reporter on the phone, everything you say is true and there is no need to check your sources.

The utter lack of professionalism tolerated by the Old Media never ceases to amaze me.

20 posted on 09/13/2004 1:50:11 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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