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To: Spackidagoosh



Judge Orders U.S. to Find Bush Records

9 minutes ago

By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon (news - web sites) to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush (news - web sites)'s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press.

U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. handed down the order late Wednesday in New York. The AP lawsuit already has led to the disclosure of previously unreleased flight logs from Bush's days piloting F-102A fighters and other jets.


Pentagon officials told Baer they plan to have their search complete by Monday. Baer ordered the Pentagon to hand over the records to the AP by Sept. 24 and provide a written statement by Sept. 29 detailing the search for more records.


"We're hopeful the Department of Defense (news - web sites) will provide a full accounting of the steps it has taken, as the judge ordered, so the public can have some assurance that there are no documents being withheld," said AP lawyer David Schulz.


White House officials have said Bush ordered the Pentagon earlier this year to conduct a thorough search for the president's records, and officials allowed reporters to review everything that was gathered back in February.


Through a series of requests under the federal open records law and a subsequent suit, the AP uncovered the flight logs, which were not part of the records the White House released earlier this year.


Both Bush's and John Kerry (news - web sites)'s service records in Vietnam have become a major issue in the presidential race. New records that have surfaced in recent weeks have raised more questions.

...http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040916/ap_on_el_pr/bush_guard_records_1&printer=1

Wonder if someone from our side will put in an FOIA on Kerry?


26 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:40 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

Thanks.


32 posted on 09/16/2004 1:58:40 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swallow leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

Kerry's records currently cannot be had under FOIA's privacy provisions. Not unless and until Kerry finally signs that 180 (without restrictions on the parties to whom the materials in his files can be released), as Bush did long ago.

(Isn't it interesting that the reason we're now having all this discussion, lawsuits, etc. about Bush's records is because Bush signed a 180 to permit scrutiny of a military record he DIDN"T make the centerpiece of his campaign, whereas Kerry HASN'T signed a 180 to permit scrutiny of a military record that he DID make the centerpiece of HIS campaign?)


55 posted on 09/16/2004 2:00:56 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: BlessedByLiberty

Judicial Watch is doing just that.

This is scary though this means the privacy act we as soldiers signed is no longer valid. This means that all paperwork having your name on it endangers other personell who served with you.


81 posted on 09/16/2004 2:04:25 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
A quick Google search...

HONORABLE HAROLD BAER, JR.
500 Pearl Street
Chambers 2230
New York, New York 10007
Telephone (212) 805-0184
Facsimile (212) 805-7901
Courtroom 23B
Courtroom Deputy
Mr. Dennis Swain
Telephone (212) 805-0088


104 posted on 09/16/2004 2:07:06 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

"Both Bush's and John Kerry (news - web sites)'s service records in Vietnam have become a major issue in the presidential race. New records that have surfaced in recent weeks have raised more questions."

Are they talking about the new "forged" documents here?


161 posted on 09/16/2004 2:17:16 PM PDT by truthseeker2
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To: BlessedByLiberty; Spackidagoosh
U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. handed down the order late Wednesday in New York.

One 'Rat washes the other.

Pubbies are going to have to set up a cadre of tort lawyers to sue everyone silly in the federal district for northern Idaho.

298 posted on 09/16/2004 5:02:21 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
Wonder if someone from our side will put in an FOIA on Kerry?

Judicial Watch already has, back in August. They got their reply yesterday and it confirms what we already know. Not all of Kerry's records have been released and he's refused to authorize their release. Case closed.

333 posted on 09/17/2004 4:54:28 AM PDT by tdadams (The only lies 'Unfit for Command' contains are the direct quotes of John Kerry)
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