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A web of connections (Rather, CBS, Mapes, Cleland, Barnes, Burkett, Van Os, Kerry, McAuliffe)
Ratherbiased.com ^ | 9/18/04

Posted on 09/19/2004 11:57:03 AM PDT by Cableguy

[graphic similar to what NYT tried to do with Bush/Swift Boat connections]



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benbarnes; burkett; cbs; cleland; edwards; kerry; mapes; mcauliffe; planetofthemapes; rather; stainedbluememo; vanos; webofconnections
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To: spokeshave

You and I apparently have the same feelings about this as we learn more about it.

The involvement in these lies and forgeries goes back 5 years. Hopefully we will get to see all of the rats involved.

Apparently, the big vile mouthed Susan Ostrich and a few other vile rats on tv have suddenly mellowed their attacks on GW in their most recent scurrying around on tv.

The full disclosure on this could probably inflict serious damage on a lot ABCNNBC BS RATS and the print media rats with high profiles.


21 posted on 09/19/2004 12:26:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: ArmyBratproud

bttt


22 posted on 09/19/2004 12:27:00 PM PDT by Vinomori
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To: OXENinFLA

Say good nite Dan.


23 posted on 09/19/2004 12:28:19 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Cboldt
I wonder if there is a line between Clelland/Kerry-Edwards, and 60 Minutes, or from Barnes to 60 Minutes.

There should be a line from Burkett to Clelland to Kerry campaign.

There clearly should be a line from Kerry campaign to Ben Barnes(vice chairman Texas Kerry campaign) to 60 minutes (interviewed Barnes on show -- (Rather and Barnes have known each other for years).

Also, Van Os was law partner with former democrat Ann Governor Richards' husband and many there are clear connection with Van Os and Barnes.
24 posted on 09/19/2004 12:35:26 PM PDT by Jackson Brown
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To: OXENinFLA

We are in the process of updating this graphic and I need some help. I need to know where to find the fax date/time stamp. I have seen it mentioned but I cannot find the source.


25 posted on 09/19/2004 12:35:42 PM PDT by hobson
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To: OXENinFLA; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; SusanTK; AdmSmith; Valin; Luis Gonzalez; ...



Proud to be part of the Vast Right Wing Blogosphere  

26 posted on 09/19/2004 12:35:45 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Jackson Brown

Fantastic! Everyone post your suggestions and we will include in update graphic. Please provide your source.


27 posted on 09/19/2004 12:38:25 PM PDT by hobson
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To: hobson

PS You should put your name and website on the graphic, so everyone knows where they got it from. I referenced your website on the email, so you should update your picture on the website.


28 posted on 09/19/2004 12:42:21 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: hobson

PPS You should look at that NYT graphic, so it is more similar to that. Also, don't make it too complicated. Simpler the better.


29 posted on 09/19/2004 12:46:55 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: Cableguy

There's another web of connections - the one that debunked the memos and very quickly tracked the threads of conspiracy between CBS, the DNC, the Kerry Campaign, and all of the other rats.


30 posted on 09/19/2004 12:47:14 PM PDT by Rocky (Heinz Kerry: 57 positions on any issue)
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To: Socratic

"held a meeting at the Kinkos"

WHAT .. where did you get that information ..??


31 posted on 09/19/2004 1:18:54 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: Cableguy

bump


32 posted on 09/19/2004 1:21:43 PM PDT by VOA
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To: mass55th

Oh wow! I had forgotten about her and the fact she was in Texas.


33 posted on 09/19/2004 1:23:32 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: Cableguy

needs extension to the DNC's "Fortunate Son" campaign that got rolling this past week.

IIRC, somebody on talk radio mentioned that The Boston Globe talked about
this campaign just about the time "Memogate" got rolling.

The timing is too perfect for mere coincidence.


34 posted on 09/19/2004 1:23:42 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Cableguy

35 posted on 09/19/2004 1:24:48 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: Cableguy
Look at this one: From MSM:
36 posted on 09/19/2004 1:25:59 PM PDT by crushelits
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It's interesting to speculate on how news giant CBS may have been sold this bill of goods. Certainly many Democrats inside and outside of CBS were inclined believe the story was true a priori to any documents. Mapes probably knew Burkett and probably had spoken with him on several occasions. But one wonders what trail of factual evidence eventually compelled CBS to run with these bogus memos.

CBS would have wanted more than one source, so fooling CBS may have involved a coordinated action on the part of several individuals. For example, someone like Burkett could have reported to Mapes that Killian complained about pressure to help Bush, or that Bush had disobeyed an order to undergo a medical exam. A second collaborator might have sent the forged memos.

Or maybe Burkett faxed the memos while Burkett's information was simultaneously being spoon-fed to CBS through Democratic back channels. CBS, wishing to believe this negative story about Bush, might have treated the collaborating sources as corroborative. Then CBS on their own initiative might have assembled the other weak collaborating evidence such as the opinions of handwriting experts etc., (which weak corroborative evidence has subsequently collapsed).

There is supposedly a Yahoo board posting by Burkett claiming he gave some information to Cleland by telephone. Cleland according to Burkett was someone overtly wishing to be very aggressive in campaigning against Bush. Suppose Max Cleland went on to pass Burkett's unsubstantiated accusations on to others and the information worked its way back to Mapes through the Democrat grapevine.

On a more constructive note, IMHO the major news organizations would be doing us all a great service if they established improved internal review procedures for the information they report. Even though strategically this story probably plays for Bush in the near term, in the long run this sort of diversion from the political process really doesn't help anyone.

37 posted on 09/19/2004 1:26:39 PM PDT by dano1
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To: Grampa Dave

You're right .. I noticed on the Sat morning finance shows that she replaced Bob Beckel and she was very subdued compared to her current in your face approach. It also made me suspicious of what she knew about this "memo" thing.


38 posted on 09/19/2004 1:27:19 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: Cableguy

GREAT JOB.


39 posted on 09/19/2004 1:31:01 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: Cableguy

BTTT


40 posted on 09/19/2004 1:32:50 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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