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Odds on the 2008 GOP nominee
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Posted on 09/26/2004 1:54:16 PM PDT by JLS

Bill First 5/2 John McCain 7/2 Rudolph Guiliani 7/2 George Pataki 9/2 Chuck Hagel 6 Mitt Romney 6 Bill Owens 8 Tom Ridge 8 George Allen 12 Norm Coleman 12 Lindsey Graham 14 Sam Brownback 14 Arnold Schwarzenegger 66 Dick Cheney 66 Jeb Bush 66 Laura Bush 100


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; gopnominee; noneoftheabove
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To: Terpfen

What about Rice/Bush? In that order...foreign affairs first and economy next.


281 posted on 09/27/2004 12:56:37 AM PDT by TatieBug
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To: TatieBug

Rice is pro-abortion, and I've already gotten a few choice comments for thinking that the also-pro-abortion Giuliani will get the nod. Besides that, does Rice even want the job?


282 posted on 09/27/2004 1:01:30 AM PDT by Terpfen (Wanted: Laura Ingraham's leopard miniskirt picture. Links welcomed!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

That's what I was thinking...and I've heard some social conservatives say how they will stay away from the voting booths because of that. This is what bothers me about these activists-their own agenda is more important to them than supporting the President during wartime.


283 posted on 09/27/2004 1:03:40 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (CBS-Cock And Bull Story.)
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To: Terpfen

I would nominate Rice as head of Homeland Security (As mentioned earlier) if she doesn't.

And like I said, Giuliani may be a RINO-but he is not a backstabber like McCain (At least that's the impression I get.)


284 posted on 09/27/2004 1:06:11 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (CBS-Cock And Bull Story.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Agreed with Giuliani. I actually want him as SecHomeSec. Rice should stay NSA--I think she's perfect there.


285 posted on 09/27/2004 1:10:40 AM PDT by Terpfen (Wanted: Laura Ingraham's leopard miniskirt picture. Links welcomed!)
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To: JLS
Bill First 5/2 - No chance, too Senatorial
John McCain 7/2 - Too old and not totally trusted within the party
Rudolph Guiliani 7/2 - Good chance if he plays his cards right
George Pataki 9/2 - Won't be picked over Guiliani
Chuck Hagel 6 - Those who do know him would say he shoots his mouth off too much
Mitt Romney 6 - Mormon prejudices still there; hurt his Dad too
Bill Owens 8 - Dark horse
Tom Ridge 8 - As a former governor may have a chance, but only if PA goes Republican this time
George Allen 12 - Another dark horse, but not out of the question
Norm Coleman 12 - not from an important state in the Electoral College
Lindsey Graham 14 - more likely a VP choice
Sam Brownback 14 - Who?
Arnold Schwarzenegger 66 - Unconstitutional
Dick Cheney 66 - Will be happy to retire by then
Jeb Bush 66 - May be a victim of Bush burnout by then
Laura Bush 100 - Unlikely

What about some current cabinet-level folks from the Adminstration? Colin Powell? Condi Rice?

286 posted on 09/27/2004 1:19:31 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: gimme1ibertee; TomGuy
Giuliani/Rice...That would be my choice.

Any FReeper pulling for Giuliani will have to wear asbestos over his tinfoil. Gimme a break. We're not here to back pro-death socialists for "free government," as he repeatedly said in his speech at the RNC.

287 posted on 09/27/2004 1:37:22 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Jacvin
Look for a gentleman named Haley Barbour to gain much attention.
288 posted on 09/27/2004 1:55:04 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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289 posted on 09/27/2004 5:15:41 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: Tall_Texan
1. $400B deficits.

2. Support for the FMA.

You only asked for one, but that's two, right off the top of my head.

290 posted on 09/27/2004 5:16:38 AM PDT by Brandon
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To: JLS
"She is hardly a seasoned politician herself."

LOL!

Hillary won in New York not due to her political savvy, but as a result of the political savvy of the people running her campaign.

291 posted on 09/27/2004 5:20:34 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Lady Jag

Yeah, from the way the Mass. press is hyperventilating over him, he sounds like another Tom Delay (that's what they said...). He could wreak some havoc in those traditionally Dem NE states, too, since he is a Yankee. :)


292 posted on 09/27/2004 5:25:57 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: ErnBatavia

got a little acid reflux, there? :D


293 posted on 09/27/2004 5:27:55 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"Bush IS a mod."

I know, but hardly anyone realized it in 2000.


294 posted on 09/27/2004 5:42:54 AM PDT by Jacvin
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To: JohnnyZ

I agree wholeheartedly that the next nominee must be acceptable to every type of Republican. President Bush has done well with that. Fiscal conservatives like him. Social conservatives like him. Moderates like him. Country Club Republicans like him. And the list goes on and on.

I personally don't think Rudy can be our nominee due to his history and views that would not appeal to social conservatives. I really think Mitt Romney would be a much better candidate. Romney has the right stance for the social conservatives, but isn't as "in your face" about it as many are. He also is solid on fiscal policy and has proven that he can win in a liberal state. I realize that doesn't translate to a win in Massachusetts in '08, necessarily. But it might mean he could carry some swing states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.

The only reasonable knock I've heard about a Romney candidacy is that he is Mormon. Personally, I don't have a problem with that. We're not electing a spiritual leader. But, I will admit, I know many people that would find it hard to vote for a Mormon for President. Romney needs to find a way to demonstrate that most Mormon beliefs are the same as other Christian denominations. If he can show the rabid evangelicals (Pentecostal, Assembly of God, etc) that he holds their Christian beliefs in high regard personally too, he may have a great chance.


295 posted on 09/27/2004 5:49:06 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Jacvin

Oh please!

Anyone who didn't know that in 2000, won't notice that Giuliani is even more of a mod than Bush!

What the hell did they think "compassionate conservatism" meant anyway?


296 posted on 09/27/2004 5:54:09 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: AVNevis

"McClintock"

Is he the guy from California who ran for Gov.? If so, I like him too.


297 posted on 09/27/2004 5:59:04 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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To: motexva

I'm not even positive what all took place. I remembered seeing this article in the Denver Post. Alludes to some serious marital problems:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E29805%257E2381443,00.html


298 posted on 09/27/2004 6:00:22 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Brandon

I hear all this "Bush is a big spender" crap from people claiming to be politically astute, and it makes my blood boil.

The Bush presidency does not exist in a vacuum, and their actions come about as a result of other actions.

First and foremost, some people's model of fiscal conservatism must be Bill Clinton, look at his numbers, the man cut spending to nothing after the Reagan/Bush1 years.

Does that mean that Clinton was a fiscal conservative?

Let me draw a picture for you:

Let's say that we work for a company that owns one vehicle, and that vehicle is there to be used by the lead sales rep.

Bill Clinton is our company's lead sales rep for eight years, and throughout those eight years, all that Bill does is put gas in the tank, and oil in the engine when needed. Bill doesn't give the car a tune up, does not rotate or replace the tires, doesn't change the oil or replace the filters, does no maintenance whatsoever.

Bill retires, and you get the car. You realize that you need to tune this car up, change the oil, replace the filters, buy new tires, get new brakes. The boss hauls your sorry butt in the office to explain yourself; how could you possibly be spending ten times what Bill spent on this car?

Bill Clinton decimated our ordnance, and bankrupted our military personnel. If he had maintained our Armed Forces properly, and 9/11 never happened, Bush's spending would not have been an issue in this campaign.


299 posted on 09/27/2004 6:05:20 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

WELL put!


300 posted on 09/27/2004 6:06:19 AM PDT by NordP (We're Mad As Zell, and We're Not Going To Take Your Liberalism Anymore!)
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