And he's just had his nails done....again.
Posted on 09/30/2004 11:47:55 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
There was no clear winner in Thursday night's first presidential debate, according to interviews with experts across the country.
"It’s more relevant to talk about the winner in terms of expectations," said Shanto Iyengar, a professor of American politics at Stanford University. "Given the fact that this was President Bush’s home turf -- national security and terrorism -- he should have dominated. He didn’t. It’s a positive outcome for Kerry."
Yet winners in debates are determined not in the minutes following, but in the 24 to 48 hours to come.
"Anyone who declares a winner in this debate is a predictable partisan. They both did beautiful," said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia.
"I don't view this as a tie," he continued. "I view this as a superb dual presentation that presented the American people with a clear choice and that's really all you can expect from these television extravaganza."
Experts agreed: both candidates performed well. Kerry was presidential; Mr. Bush had a command of facts. But while no one would declare a winner, all agreed Kerry scored points by standing toe-to-toe with Mr. Bush on foreign policy and national security.
"I thought both guys did extremely well. But that means its good news for Kerry," said Norman Ornstein, a political analyst at the American Enterprise Institute. "Kerry’s over the bar and he’s in the game.
"When you have an incumbent running against a challenger," Ornstein said, "they are looking to see if the other guy can be president." According to Ornstein and other experts, Kerry came off looking presidential.
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In a suprise twist, a recently unearthed typed memo from abraham lincoln declared john kerry the winner of the debate. Details to be revealed on 60 minutes...
Don't forget the channeling of Reagan and JFK that Kerry performed during the talk. Talk about transparent baloney...
First it is "Kerry wins". Now its a "Draw". What will it be friday afternoon?
I don't give a darn what the experts thunk about it. What I and we should care about is how the numb skulled undecided or those sitting on the fence think.
CBS? Not a credible source.
What undecided voters think:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1232295/posts
Bush nuked him. The "Global Test" will haunt Kerry for the rest of the campaign.
The undecideds will still break mostly for Bush as they usually do for incumbents in presidential races.
I agree. That "Global Test" comment is a killer for kerry. What a gift for Carl Rove.
That Reagan reference was disgraceful. Let's see, he invoked Ronald Reagan, AND he promised to stop our nuclear weapons program. If only Ronnie were here to lend some theatrical flare to Bush's slapdowns.
I liked Bush's repetition on the subject of Kerry's public bashing of US Iraq policy: the slighting of Allawi, of our allies, of our troops, is unacceptable, and is a good "in a nutshell" summary of why Kerry can't be President.
All Bush needs to do is put that "Global Test" phrase in a campaign ad and this race is over. The Fat Lady is warming up.....
I think the Pajamahadeen has spooked CBS. Next think, CBS will endorse Dubya for another 4 years as president.
All of which helped to undercut one of Kerry's key premises: he knows how to deal with allies. Apparently he doesn't... and he showed us.
The line in Kerry's closing where he said he "never wavered" is fair game, too. I hope that gets played in some 527 ad against his antiwar testimony in the 70s. If that isn't wavering, I'm not sure what is.
They just need to juxtapose his "unwavering" next to "I voted for that before I voted against it"
I watched this a second time and Bush kicked Kerry's ass !
Exactly my opinion on second watching. I just listened the second time, as most Americans probably did. The first time through, I was trying to analyze every word of every statement -- not what most Americans will likely do.
I just read the AP story. Tid for tat, it makes Bush look good.
Exactly. If the mainstream media reports the debate as a draw, that clearly means that they think Kerry lost.
Also, it is predictably lazy journalism to say the debate was a draw. Doing so doesn't require any depth of analysis whatsoever--the story could have been (and probably was) written days ago.
And he's just had his nails done....again.
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