[Fatalis]

I am less tinfoily than some here. I think that the DHS issue was probably understood to be included in this first debate and Kerry's comments about it came in his opening remarks which would be logical.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I don't consider myself to be "tinfoily" either. I just don't trust liberals to play fair - based on experience and personal observation, I guess.