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House GOP Seeks to Quash Draft Rumor (Charlie Rangel, RAT-N.Y., would vote against HIS OWN BILL!)
Newsday.com ^ | 10/05/04 | DEVLIN BARRETT

Posted on 10/05/2004 2:50:03 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: CyberAnt
I have to applaud my guy, Duncan Hunter (R-CA), who is head of the Armed Services Committee.

He was up a few minutes ago - called it the hoax of the year. He did well...

21 posted on 10/05/2004 3:21:32 PM PDT by Libloather (911th Internet Reconnaissance Brigade - Jammie Commando Battalion)
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To: Libloather

While many brain-dead people seem to think that George W. Bush is plotting to draft your children after he wins the election this November, it would be wise to consider that there are two bills in Congress seeking to reinstate the draft - both being pushed by leftwing Democrats!

H.R. 163 (14 cosponsors) and S. 89 (no cosponsors) were both introduced by Democrats Charles Rangel (NY) and Ernest Hollings (SC) respectively. The bills were introduced in January 2003 and would require both men and women to either perform mandatory military or civilian service. Both of these pieces of legislation are currently stalled and there's no indication that they are going anywhere anytime soon.


22 posted on 10/05/2004 3:22:28 PM PDT by NWO Slave
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To: ex-snook

Ducan Hunter called it the Hoax of the year.....


23 posted on 10/05/2004 3:23:39 PM PDT by Paul8148
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To: Libloather
If they vote on it and make a national spectacle out of the issue, it will really backfire against the dims. For the most part I don't think this scare is really working. A ten year old could find out in 5 minutes on the Internet that this was just a rumor, and nothing more. Bush is doing fairly well with young people anyway.
24 posted on 10/05/2004 3:27:07 PM PDT by Clump
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To: Libloather

He's a truly great American. He went to bat for San Diego and lobbied for the USS Ronald Reagan to be home based here, after the Navy had withdrawn the USS Kitty Hawk. The Navy wanted Washington state, but Duncan fought back by declaring that Reagan was Governor of California and his ship rightfully belonged at a California base .. and San Diego being especially ready for aircraft carriers, we won the priviledge to host that brand new carrier.

Duncan is a true gem.


25 posted on 10/05/2004 3:28:03 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: doug from upland
The only one MANDATING services are RATS. See sKerry's MANDATED NATIONAL SERVICE PLAN

The GOP need to expose this nasty commie plan of sKerry's for what it is.

26 posted on 10/05/2004 3:36:01 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: GailA

I thought Keyes was for manditory service


27 posted on 10/05/2004 3:46:47 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: GailA
sKerry'

pardon me, but i believe it is sKerryCrow....

28 posted on 10/05/2004 3:52:41 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: wildwood

Check again..it says sKERRY, not Keyes.


29 posted on 10/05/2004 3:56:48 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Krodg

This is Sen KERRY's plan. One nasty one at that. 13 years old to senior citizens. GO read it.


30 posted on 10/05/2004 3:57:55 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: ex-snook

Sure, draft every high school dropout that cant read or think and have him flunk out of today's military tech schools and waste everybody's time in the process until he gets seperated out.


31 posted on 10/05/2004 3:59:00 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Libloather

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236219/posts

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thanks :-)


32 posted on 10/05/2004 4:13:18 PM PDT by t_skoz
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To: Libloather

This is so much baloney, but....Kerry's plan for mandatory military service for everyone at age 18, and after either 2 or four years (can't recall which, sorry), there might be money for college. Might. That's the operative word here, considering that he plans socialized health care and Hill wants to educate the world with us footing the bill. There won't be any $$$ left for kids to go to college after an Israeli type mandatory service scheme...a.k.a. the draft. The old bait and switch tactic, folks. But mention of this and Beslan is enough to scare even the dumbest soccer mom into voting for GW.


33 posted on 10/05/2004 4:14:35 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Libloather
"I would not advise anybody that's running for election as a Democrat to vote for this," said Rangel, who contended Republicans abused parliamentary standards to rush a vote to the floor without hearings or discussion. "It's a prostitution of the legislative process," he said.

Well, Charlie would know...he's the one who brought this whore to the party.

34 posted on 10/05/2004 4:15:01 PM PDT by Petronski (Watching Heinz and Kerry show affection is like watching two lobsters in a kung fu movie.)
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To: Libloather

BTTT!


35 posted on 10/05/2004 4:43:47 PM PDT by itslex71 (southern by birth, republican by the grace of my dad)
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To: itslex71; Petronski; hershey; t_skoz; BobS; Kylie_04; doug from upland; Eric in the Ozarks; ...
Updated - and EDITED version -

House GOP Seeks to Quash Draft Rumor
5 minutes ago
By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - House Republicans sought to quash a persistent Internet rumor that the government will reinstate a military draft after the election, engineering an overwhelming vote Tuesday to kill legislation they hope will put the rumor to rest for good.

Republicans accused Democrats of feeding the rumor mill to scare young voters and their parents into voting against President Bush.

"This campaign is a baseless, malevolent concoction of the Democratic Party and everyone in this chamber knows it," said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas.

The House voted 402-2 to defeat the draft bill offered last year by Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

Even he urged Democrats to vote against the bill, and charged Republicans were cynically trying to use the measure to escape election-season questions about the war in Iraq.

Just two lawmaker, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., and Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., struck off on their own and voted for the measure.

"We are in a war, and not only a small segment of the population should fight in that war," said Murtha.

The specter of a wartime military draft like that of the Vietnam era has lingered around the presidential campaign for the past few weeks, fueled by an e-mail driven rumor mill and a campaign by Rock the Vote, a nonpartisan group that seeks to boost voting among young people.

The White House on Tuesday accused opponents of President Bush of trying to scare voters with false rumors.

Much of the Internet gossip circling the World Wide Web has suggested that Republicans, including the president, have a plan to surreptitiously bring back the draft in a second Bush term. Democrats say worries about it are spurring voter registration on college campuses and among people in their 20s in urban areas.

"Everywhere they go on the Internet, all they see is the draft, the draft, the draft," said Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. "The Rock the Vote effort among kids in this country is afire and they (Republicans) know it. They're trying their best to tamp down this fire."

The Bush administration has strongly denied any plan to reinstate the draft, but the denials have not killed the rumor.

"There are some who have tried to bring this up as a scare tactic and that is highly unfortunate," White House spokesman Scott McLellan said Tuesday. "The president does not believe we need a draft and he's made that repeatedly clear."

Speaking to Iowa voters Monday, Bush said, "We will not have a draft so long as I am president of the United States."

Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has suggested the draft could be reinstated if voters re-elect Bush.

Kerry said his plan for Iraq, which calls for a summit and for allies to share a greater part of the burden, would not need a military draft.

Campaigning in Iowa on Tuesday, Kerry told reporters, "I've never said they're going to have a draft. I've said I don't know what they're going to do. I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to pursue a policy that guarantees we don't have a draft."

At a time that the Army is already struggling to meet recruitment targets, Kerry has proposed boosting the U.S. military by tens of thousands of troops, though he argues any increases in Iraq would come from foreign allies.

Rock the Vote said it is raising the draft issue because the presidential candidates haven't addressed it.

"This is not an Internet rumor," said Rock the Vote spokesman Jay Strell. "Young people in America deserve an honest and open debate about the possibility of a draft. Neither side has offered up what they're going to do to meet the current and future military needs."

Strell said his group's Web site has seen a huge spike in recent days in downloads of voter registration forms, now up to about 40,000 a day.

The draft legislation scheduled for debate Tuesday was introduced by Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., a fierce critic of both the Iraq war and the Bush administration.

"I would not advise anybody that's running for election as a Democrat to vote for this," said Rangel, who contended Republicans abused parliamentary standards to rush a vote to the floor without hearings or discussion. "It's a prostitution of the legislative process," he said.

The measure would require two years of military or civilian service of men and women aged 18-26.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist ruled out consideration of a companion bill in that chamber, saying, "To the leadership of the United States Senate, it's a non-issue and it's one that's not going to be addressed."

36 posted on 10/05/2004 4:54:49 PM PDT by Libloather (911th Internet Reconnaissance Brigade - Jammie Commando Battalion)
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