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American Deserters Find A Mixed Reception In Canada (good riddance and you are NOT WELCOME BACK)
Washington Post ^ | October 11, 2004 | Doug Struck

Posted on 10/11/2004 1:02:48 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

TORONTO -- Jeremy Hinzman enlisted in the Army in Boston, did a tour in Afghanistan and prepared for elite Ranger school. Then came orders to go to Iraq. He neatly piled his Army gear in his living room at Fort Bragg and fled to Canada with his wife and baby.

"No matter how much I wanted to, I could not convince myself that killing someone was ever right," Hinzman, 25, said in an interview here.

Spec. Hinzman is a deserter, one of at least four who have followed the path of Vietnam War resisters a generation ago to seek refuge in Canada. Here, they have been embraced by many from that time -- former peaceniks who are now pillars of the community.

The government is less welcoming. Despite Canada's opposition to the Iraq war, the government also is opposing the deserters' refugee applications, saying the soldiers are not persecuted. It is resisting the argument that the Iraq war is illegal.

"Canada is worried if they grant us refugee status, others would come up," said Hinzman.

The deserters in Canada provoke anger in the United States among people who argue they are shirking a duty to which they willingly agreed. "There's no draft. These people volunteered for the military," said Jerry Newberry, a spokesman of the Veterans of Foreign Wars in St. Louis. "These people want to have their cake and eat it, too."

Hinzman, a slender, studious young man, accepts the criticisms. He replies that his objections to the military evolved after he enlisted. Well before he was ordered to Iraq, he applied for noncombatant duty. Had that been granted, he said, he would have served his obligation, would even have gone to Iraq as a medic or cook or anything that did not involve offensive operations.

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If that is harsh so be it ... I do not want in our Military defending side by side with my beloved. If you do not want to defend your country then do not join, if you join and desert not even Leavenworth is good enough for your kind.
1 posted on 10/11/2004 1:02:49 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

I think we should send bounty hunters in and bring these people back and give them a taste of stockade time. There are very few things worse than deserters.


2 posted on 10/11/2004 1:05:48 PM PDT by x1stcav (John Kerry was the only hero from Vietnam; the rest of us were war criminals.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I... get... it. Someone who cannot accept that it is ever right to kill anyone had applied to RANGER School. Bullshit.


3 posted on 10/11/2004 1:07:21 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Former Military Chick

Memo to Hinzman: Sometimes medics, and especially cooks, are pressed into combat by necessity.


4 posted on 10/11/2004 1:08:27 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: Former Military Chick

The thing about this war is nobody was drafted. It is not comparable to Viet Nam at all. I would like to know what perks these deserters got. Free college education maybe? That's my guess, they joined for the free education and got it, but are unwilling to hold up their end of the bargain. Should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.


5 posted on 10/11/2004 1:08:31 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Former Military Chick
"No matter how much I wanted to, I could not convince myself that killing someone was ever right,"

So if a terrorist was about to murder your wife and child You would NOT defend them and KILL the terrorist because it would not be right?

Let this POS go, we don't need idiots in the military.

6 posted on 10/11/2004 1:09:02 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: pabianice

Uh, yeah. What was he expecting, to parachute behind enemy lines with a 70-lb ruck and negotiate 'em to death?


7 posted on 10/11/2004 1:13:53 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Former Military Chick
Jeremy Hinzman enlisted in the Army in Boston, did a tour in Afghanistan and prepared for elite Ranger school. Then came orders to go to Iraq.

Hinzman, a slender, studious young man, accepts the criticisms. He replies that his objections to the military evolved after he enlisted. Well before he was ordered to Iraq, he applied for noncombatant duty.

I see you were against the war even before you were for the war?

8 posted on 10/11/2004 1:14:18 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: Modernman

Did he think he was applying for the TEXAS Rangers?


9 posted on 10/11/2004 1:14:28 PM PDT by BroncosFan (NJ 2005: Schundler for Governor)
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To: pabianice

My sentiments exactly!


10 posted on 10/11/2004 1:15:18 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Former Military Chick

What a maroon-he joined the military BEFORE he "discovered" that he could never kill another human? What if the terrorists were to enact another Beslan in the school where his children are?


11 posted on 10/11/2004 1:15:22 PM PDT by mrsmel
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Hinzman, a slender, studious young man, accepts the criticisms. He replies that his objections to the military evolved after he enlisted

If you take the King's shilling, you accept the responsibilities that come with it.
12 posted on 10/11/2004 1:15:46 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Chieftain; Ragtime Cowgirl; gatorbait; GreyFriar; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; americanmother; ...

I am really ticked off about this so I am **PINGING** you to feel my pain! ARG


13 posted on 10/11/2004 1:19:06 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (REALLY REALLY Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: x1stcav
I think we should send bounty hunters in

Just making them listen exclusively to "Canadian content" radio and TV
should be pain enough.
14 posted on 10/11/2004 1:20:12 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

These sniveling little girly-men. Canada can have them!


15 posted on 10/11/2004 1:21:20 PM PDT by MusicZone
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To: Former Military Chick
Old saying oft said to someone bitching about his orders:

"If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have enlisted."

16 posted on 10/11/2004 1:23:47 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Former Military Chick

What the hell did these idiots think they were joining,a sleepaway camp group?

All I hear is whining about joining for an education. What did they think the weapons were for,fun?

Morons----we're better off without them.


17 posted on 10/11/2004 1:27:34 PM PDT by Mears
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To: x1stcav

Agree. Except for bringing them back. Canada can keep them. Now, if only they would take one traitor off our hands!


18 posted on 10/11/2004 1:28:58 PM PDT by shagbark
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To: Mears
Iraq as a medic or cook

Then join McDonalds! Not the military!

19 posted on 10/11/2004 1:30:09 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: x1stcav

Send the "Dog".


20 posted on 10/11/2004 1:31:09 PM PDT by caisson71
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