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Bush Surged After Kerry Attacked Mary Cheney
newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Oct. 18, 2004 7:12 p.m. EDT

Posted on 10/18/2004 4:25:43 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

In a bit of political poetic justice, it appears that polls showing the Bush Cheney ticket surging ahead of Kerry Edwards started last Thursday, just hours after Kerry announced that Dick Cheney's daughter was "a lesbian" in the final presidential debate.

"Overnight polling showed a sharp gain by George W. Bush," columnist Robert Novak reported in his Monday column, noting the race had been dead even after Bush's first disastrous debate performance until that moment.

While Democratic Party officials publicly say Kerry did nothing wrong by identifying Mary Cheney's sexuality, outside the Kerry camp party regulars were horrified. According to Novak:

"Democrats at debate-watching parties gasped in surprise. Wired focus group members across the country displayed an instant negative reaction. Old Democratic political hands, in disbelief, tried to convey their unhappiness to Kerry. Even Kerry's Republican friend, Sen. John McCain, publicly criticized the Democratic nominee."

The unhappiness from prominent Democrats was conveyed to Kerry's campaign plane with a strong recommendation: Apologize for any inadvertent insult.

The push for an apology had one important backer, seasoned Clinton press flack Mike McCurry, who joined team Kerry just last month.

But McCurry was shot down by the take-no-prisoners campaign staff, who agreed more with campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill's pronouncement that Mary Cheney was "fair game."

As Kerry continues to stonewall on any Cheney apology, some Republicans would like to see team Bush do more to spotlight his sleazy low-blow with a round of last-minute TV ads.

Reports Novak's colleague, William Safire:

"They have in mind a TV spot using an old film clip of a Boston lawyer named Welch at a Congressional hearing, saying 'Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?'"


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushbounce; kerry; lurch; nohonor; thirddebate
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1 posted on 10/18/2004 4:25:44 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

I don't give John Kerry that much credit. Bush surged because he's the better man period.


2 posted on 10/18/2004 4:28:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"They have in mind a TV spot using an old film clip of a Boston lawyer named Welch at a Congressional hearing, saying 'Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?'"

Wouldn't that be poetic justice - using against Kerry the famous line employed against Joe McCarthy? Frankly, though, I'd advise against it. There could be a backlash against the backlash if W's campaign tries to exploit Kerry's gaffe too hard. I think the issue has done it's damage. Time to move on.

3 posted on 10/18/2004 4:29:41 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: InvisibleChurch

Quote: "some Republicans would like to see team Bush do more to spotlight his sleazy low-blow with a round of last-minute TV ads."

Nope. Not going to happen. The GOP will rise above that.
Watch and see.


4 posted on 10/18/2004 4:30:22 PM PDT by konaice
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To: InvisibleChurch
besides the polls bush is also up on tradesports.com while kerry is going down. Follow the money. When somebody says, "It's not the money," it's always the money.Rush Limbaugh
5 posted on 10/18/2004 4:30:50 PM PDT by postaldave
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I totally agree...I said the same thing yesterday...


6 posted on 10/18/2004 4:30:53 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: InvisibleChurch
Even Kerry's Republican friend, Sen. John McCain, publicly criticized the Democratic nominee.
A guy I know on another forum knows McCain personally. He says that what McCain says privately about Kerry could peel paint.

Even liberal observers have admitted that while Edward's comments about Mary Cheney weren't meant to be nasty, Kerry's were.

-Eric

7 posted on 10/18/2004 4:31:39 PM PDT by E Rocc (There are D, there are P, and there are A....)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Is this, at long last, our Dukakis moment?


8 posted on 10/18/2004 4:31:41 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: cripplecreek
Dated Dean, rebounded to Kerry, voted for Bush.

Visit jibjab.com!

9 posted on 10/18/2004 4:32:15 PM PDT by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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To: konaice

they might rise above it....but the Swifties might be holding back some arsenal...


10 posted on 10/18/2004 4:33:02 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (Native American pleading for Truth!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Is this, at long last, our Dukakis moment? i think it really is. the truth always comes out no matter how hard they try to keep it down.
11 posted on 10/18/2004 4:33:31 PM PDT by postaldave
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Is this, at long last, our Dukakis moment?

This whole election has been one long Dukakis Moment.

12 posted on 10/18/2004 4:33:46 PM PDT by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Here Here


13 posted on 10/18/2004 4:34:23 PM PDT by WCoastRepublican
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The Lurch would have gone down without the Mary Cheney comment. This just made it come about quicker. IMHO


14 posted on 10/18/2004 4:35:53 PM PDT by WCoastRepublican
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To: cripplecreek
The President won the debates!

He's the most likable and believable one.

15 posted on 10/18/2004 4:36:17 PM PDT by right way right
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To: E Rocc

Well please suggest to your friend to suggest to McClain starts getting vocal about and let everyone know how he feels.

McClain could have done a lot more than he has.

John


16 posted on 10/18/2004 4:36:33 PM PDT by John_7Diamonds
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To: InvisibleChurch

new tag

heard part of his speech via Rush today - he better hope none of his supporters had wireless connection to factcheckers.ORG while in the crowd...


17 posted on 10/18/2004 4:37:17 PM PDT by bitt (F'n, Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
There could be a backlash against the backlash if W's campaign tries to exploit Kerry's gaffe too hard.

I agree with that. I disagree with the notion that Kerry lost the 3rd debate simply because of the Cheney daughter remark. Kerry looked weak and pale in the 3rd debate. He had no energy and said a lot of goofy things that made no sense.

In the 1st debate, people weren't paying attention to what he said. They were looking for him to be "Presidential". That is, someone they could see as president. He walked like a president and sounded like a president. Once you get past that, his message is gobbledygook.

The problem with singling out the Cheney gaffe is that there have been so many other gaffes since then. Kerry's "ask me about my wife, I'll tell you about my mother" strategery didn't pan out. Also, Edwards' "Vote For Me and The Dead Will Walk" eulogy is something out of a creepy horror film.

18 posted on 10/18/2004 4:37:23 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Visualize Smaller Government)
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To: E Rocc

Edwards simply managed to sugarcoat his remarks more than Kerry did, and couch them in less offensive terms. The intent was entirely the same, believe me.


19 posted on 10/18/2004 4:37:28 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Terrorists will "global test" us right off the planet)
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To: WCoastRepublican

IMHO the point has been made, the gaffe has produced maximum damage. If we overplay this, it won't be good. It is not necessary to do any more.

BTW I think Bush won that debate hands down even without Marygate.


20 posted on 10/18/2004 4:38:04 PM PDT by cajungirl (Jammies Up!!)
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