LIBERTARIAN PARTY FOUNDER ENDORSES BUSH

AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL LIBERTARIANS | 10-24-2004 | Dr. John Hospers

[thingumbob]

Wow...that's good news. It's nice that he sees that dividing and conquering has been helping the left in this country for far to long..........thank god he had this revelation.

[ride the whirlwind]

Wonder how the libertarian candidate is stacking up in the polls. My guess is he's really off the radar, but when eavesdropping at an enemy site the other day, some dems were saying that they thought he might actually be in a position to take more potential votes from GWB than Nader would from Kerry. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

[infidel29]

I see nothing on their web page http://www.lp.org

[Malcolm]

Like I've always said, if you can't vote Republican, you're not a true conservative. If we split the vote between a zillion different parties, the dems win. No true conservative can be in favor of that, no matter what, because the alternative would HAVE to be better than a dem Admin. (Any one want to argue that--after Clinton's or Carter's tenures in ofc?????). I totally reject LP and hyper-conservative a-holes who always play the "savior" and try to convince those like me they falsely accuse of being "sellouts," that they infallibly have the "obvious" solution to the problem, which is to split the vote 8 different ways.

I'm been on FReep for years and listened to every conceivable argument put forward by these people, most of whom are the most childish, absurd, and/or malicious people I've ever seen. THE SOLUTION IS TO GROW UP, VOTE REPUBLICAN AND BE THANKFUL WE HAVE A CONSERVATIVE OPTION AND VOICE, PERIOD. I've found that a large number of conservatives are not Christians, so the very idea of thankfulness is beyond their understanding. Nevertheless, there is no valid, logical argument that will produce better results than all of us voting Republican and living with the outcome. Of course that would require maturity and patience, and from my experience on this website, including a moderator who erased one of my posts last year for a nonmeritorious reason, that will not happen anytime soon. Oh well, maybe when the Anti-Christ comes along, as long as he spouts a untraconservative line, perhaps you brilliant hyperconservatives will finally have someone you can believe in. Confusion to the enemy....

[bahblahbah]

Thats not surpising is it? I wouldn't expect an endorsment of GWB to be on the libertarian home page.


But I still wonder where this came from.

[Klickitat]

"This time, if we vote libertarian, we may win a tiny rhetorical battle, but lose the larger war.

Bump

[Psycho_Runner]

But Maher is no Libertarian. The Libertarians have some fringe ideas and some truly good ones.

I totally agree. I voted for libertarian in 1980 instead of Reagn. I thought he was too liberal. Through out the years I slanted towards the Republicans due to libertarians think our foreign policy should be based on the threat of nuclear usage. The only saving grace for the liberterians is the domestic issues, no welfare for people or corporations.

[aj7360]

Interesting letter.

However without a source it is completely worthless. Could you please share the source with us????

[infidel29]

I don`t know, Hospers has always seemed to have his head on straight. I may not agree all the time with him, but if he really thinks sKerry as president would be a disaster (which it would) he might post on their home page.

[muleskinner]

How did you get this letter if nobody else has it and it's not posted anywhere? Are you John Hospers? Does the name Gene Burns mean anything?

You are taking a big chance posting this and encourageing folks to post it elsewhere.

This better not be a CBS moment.

[Names Ash Housewares]

Im waiting for confirmation before I blast this out to the world.

[Prime Choice]

You are taking a big chance posting this and encourageing folks to post it elsewhere.

I concur. Especially since the claim has no source and there's no such release on the Libertarian Party web site.

This better not be a CBS moment.

It's starting to smell like one. Big time.

[muleskinner]

Waiting for confirmation of sources.....Always a good choice.

[muir_redwoods]

I am one more libertarian (small "L")who will be voting for Bush. Let the left be the idiots who vote for Nader and shoot themselves in the foot.

[ModelBreaker]

I've always said those libertarians really know what they're doing...I did say that, I think?

I dunno. In 1990 or thereabouts, I reregistered Libertarian in California out of disgust for George I and his failure to read his own lips. It quickly came to my attention that the Libertarian party (at least in CA) was run by a bunch of moonbats who seemed mostly concerned with being able to puff their doobies free of government sanction.

I came home to the Republicans pretty quickly.

That said, Hospers sounds like his head is screwed on pretty well. His letter sounds like what I thought the Libertarian party would be like.

[Prime Choice]

Interesting letter. However without a source it is completely worthless. Could you please share the source with us????

It's been nearly an hour since the initial posting and no credible source has been cited apart from an AOL address (yeah...like no-one claiming to be someone else can get an AOL address, right?).

This thing is starting to smell like Bravo Sierra.

[Prime Choice]

It quickly came to my attention that the Libertarian party (at least in CA) was run by a bunch of moonbats who seemed mostly concerned with being able to puff their doobies free of government sanction.

It ain't just the Californian Liberalitarians...

[mafree]

The Democratic Party today is a haven for anti-Semites, racists, radical environmentalists, plundering trial lawyers, government employee unions, and numerous other self-serving elites who despise the Constitution and loath private property. It is opposed to free speech – witness the mania for political correctness and intimidation on college campuses, and Kerry’s threat to sue television stations that carry the Swift Boat ads. If given the power to do so, Democrats will use any possible means to suppress opposing viewpoints, particularly on talk radio and in the university system. They will attempt to enact “hate speech” and “hate crime” laws and re-institute the Fairness Doctrine, initiate lawsuits, and create new regulations designed to suppress freedom of speech and intimidate their political adversaries. They will call it “defending human rights.” This sort of activity may well make up the core of a Kerry administration Justice Department that will have no truck with the rule of law except as a weapon to use against opponents.

Powerful paragraph- really makes the case against sKerry and the Demoncraps. This is a lot of the reason why I wouldn't dream of voting for Lurch.

[ride the whirlwind]

Thanks for supporting this president! From a dem site (not DU, btw):


There are four third-party candidates, not just Nader. While Cobb (Green) is on the ballot in barely more than half the states, and mostly states where the outcome is not in doubt, Peroutka and Nader are on in 3/4 or so, and Badnarik (Libertarian) is on the ballot everywhere except NH and OK, including every battleground state except NH. (YMMV on NH as a battleground).
A poll on Ohio that is a 3-way Bush Kerry Nader is just wrong, because (accuracy depends on litigation) Nader is not on the ballot in Ohio, but Badnarik the Libertarian (whose draw is very different than Nader's) is there and drawing votes.

These bad three-way polls selectively damage the Kerry campaign, because they show a 3-way with Nader competing with Kerry for votes, but fail to show Peroutka selectively scooping up conservatives, and Badnarik doing the Libertarian thing. It is worthwhile for Kerry supporters to call for competent polling where the pollees are given correct lists of the candidates: Honest polling helps Kerry.


by phillies on Sat Oct 23rd, 2004 at 08:40:56 PM EST



Re: More Bad Polling (none / 0)

Good comment. Badnarik's vote totals may surprise everyone.

by Mark Fulwiler on Sun Oct 24th, 2004 at 04:36:02 AM EST

[George Smiley]

Sent an email to the aol address informing him of this thread and that people were doing a "Cite, please" on the endorsement-

BTW if you websearch on the aol email address one hit comes up on what looks like an Objectivist site.