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Next GOP challenge: absentee prison votes
Delaware County Times ^ | 10/31/04 | Chris Lilik

Posted on 10/31/2004 6:19:32 AM PST by RepCath

PENNSYLVANIA: ILLEGAL PA PRISONER ABSENTEE BALLOT SCANDAL UNCOVERED Chris Lilik 10/31 12:47 AM

Things could not be stickier in PA over military absentee ballots, voter registration fraud, controversial polling locations, and now a huge scandal has come to light involving prisoner absentee ballots!

According to a new Delaware County Times story, Congressman Curt Weldon and State Rep Steve Barrar are outraged over allegations that unsupervised individuals were allowed to go from prisoner to prisoner filling out their absentee ballots!

Weldon says a federal lawsuit is going to be filed challenging the legitimacy of prison absentee ballots. In PA it is totally illegal for prisoners to submit absentee ballots. Both Weldon and Barrar observed the girls after something shady occurred at the prison, and one even tried to hide a ballot in her jacket:

Four girls walked out from the prison who had clearly been doing some kind of election work," [Weldon] said. "When (state Rep.) Steve Barrar and I went up and asked them what they were doing, they said 'We can't tell you.' "We told them who we were and asked if they had collected any absentee ballots while they were in the prison. Sure enough, one of them pulled out a ballot and showed it to us. It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen — just the type of illegal, third-party handling of ballots that we had been tipped off about. And there were TV crews there filming the whole thing." Barrar received a call from a prison source earlier this week who told him canvassers were entering Curran-Fromhold and helping prisoners with their ballots. "I can't believe that people are allowed to just come and go from the prison with absentee ballots in their hands," said Barrar, of Upper Chichester. "There was absolutely no oversight."

(Excerpt) Read more at delcotimes.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Front Page News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: absenteevote; ballot; felonvote; pa; prisoner; prisonvote; scandal; votefraud; voterfraud
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Although this is no surprise; how can we really get the story out there.
1 posted on 10/31/2004 6:19:38 AM PST by RepCath
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To: RepCath

Call your representatives and senators Monday morning.

Call your local Republican office on Monday and ask how you can personally help.

They will need bodies to help sort out the absentee ballots. Call and see what you can do.


2 posted on 10/31/2004 6:21:07 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed)
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To: RepCath

Callers blanketing local talk radio help make the major newspapers for the area feel like they are missing a story if they intentionally ignore it to long.


3 posted on 10/31/2004 6:22:59 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: Peach

They've been doing this in nursing homes, state mental hospitals, and such for decades. They walk around the place, smile and introduce themselves and make nice talk to usually incoherent individuals and then proceed to fill out their absentee ballot for them. My daughter does volunteer work at a local nursing home. She's seen them doing it. They pay the desk clerk and staff off with a box of donuts or some cake.


4 posted on 10/31/2004 6:27:20 AM PST by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: RepCath

To limit duplication, please do not alter the heading. Thanks.


5 posted on 10/31/2004 6:28:20 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: RepCath

I have a thousand members of my group, and 400 who read the news I grab from here. =) Be sure, they'll be hearing about this, and they'll be passing it onto their friends, and so on.


6 posted on 10/31/2004 6:29:39 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: RepCath

Hannity mentioned this on his radio show, Thursday. Rendell wouldn't answer any questions about it, nor would he denounce the disifranchisement of the military votes for PA. He would not endorse an extension of overseas ballots, due to the Nader situation, whether it was military or civilian. Rendell was asked several times to renounce this travesty, and would not. Something stinks. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck......


7 posted on 10/31/2004 6:29:55 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Former ARNG and son of WWII B-29 POW)
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To: RepCath

My dad worked in a prison. They are not easy places to just stroll around in areas where prisoners are located. To have this having taken place required some orders from the top. And by top I mean very top. The guards are very, very corrupt. They will fight and claw to get up the political ladder. They won't talk.


8 posted on 10/31/2004 6:31:34 AM PST by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: RepCath

The sad thing is that the Democrats know where they need to go to get votes: To Criminals. How do Republicans know that they don't have the vote of the Criminal-American community?


9 posted on 10/31/2004 6:37:55 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Michael Moore: Will lie for food and I stay busy!)
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To: blackdog

" The guards are very, very corrupt. They will fight and claw to get up the political ladder. They won't talk"

I gotta reply to this. Prison guards are not corrupt. They don't fight and claw to get up the political ladder. Maybe your dad does, but just what political ladder is he climbing? To be the "Top Guard"? Maybe supervisor? Prison guards are folks going to work with 'stab guards' on their necks, breakaway ties, and upper body protection. The job is crashingly boring, herding a bunch of losers from place to place, making certain no trouble is caused. Such a broad brush you've used to slander some really hardworking people. Go look in the mirror and slap yourself for that 'very, very corrupt' statement.


10 posted on 10/31/2004 6:43:59 AM PST by toomuchcoffee
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To: toomuchcoffee

Greatersford prison. I wouldn't know about all of them, but that one's nasty. It's a maximum security state prison. The guards are largely inner city Philadelphia residents who commute an hou and a half to the prison every day. All kinds of contraband and activity within the prison is fueled by the guards either directly or looking the other way in exchange for something. The dynamics inside of a county or city jail may be different by nature. I'm talking about a state max prison where the average inmate has been a repeat violent offender and has a 20 year sentence. A certain level of drugs, jail politics, contraband, and such is an actual way of keeping the inmates busy enough to keep the peace.


11 posted on 10/31/2004 7:58:18 AM PST by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: RepCath

Anyone convicted of voter fraud should be banished to Canada...permanently.


12 posted on 10/31/2004 8:00:10 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: toomuchcoffee
And oh yeah......A prison guard unit captain lets political people in to harvest democrat votes. A guard then blows the whistle. Gusess where that guard may find him or herself next month? If it's not the lousiest assignment in the place it will certainly be the most dangerous. Maybe transfered to the BAU, where inmates throw feces and urine at you. Maybe taking a bunch of inmates to a painting detail and find yourself alone in a closed hallway with ten inmates carrying scrapers?

It's reality my friend. Sorry if it rubs you the wrong way. At least that's the way it was where my dad worked.

13 posted on 10/31/2004 8:04:01 AM PST by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: RepCath

Count on this happening in other states. THE GOP HAS TO CHALLENGE ALL OF THIS. IT'S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE. THEY CANNOT ALLOW DEMONRATS TO STEAL AN ELECTION THROUGH FRAUDULANT MEANS. NO MORE MR. NICE GUY.


14 posted on 10/31/2004 8:41:22 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan

I'm thinking the GOP needs to come up with big cash rewards for uncovering this stuff. Seriously. They need to take action.


15 posted on 10/31/2004 8:42:56 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: RepCath

Dem Governor Rendell launched a program to encourage prisoners to vote. This is the same guy that went to court to stop an extension for ballots from Iraq when they were sent out late due to him suing to keep Nader off the ballot.

Fight for the felons rights but fight to disenfranchise our troops risking their lives in Iraq. Yeah, that sounds like a democrat.


16 posted on 10/31/2004 9:16:29 AM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: blackdog

I suggest that you post this as a vanity. Many of us are aware of the prisons, but I for one had not heard about the nursing homes.


17 posted on 10/31/2004 9:16:34 AM PST by Piranha
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To: blackdog

I don't quite know where to begin. I guess with the paint scrapers, ten inmates and one guard. The guard is crazy, to begin with. Or really stupid. Drugs and contraband? Check the visitors before beating up on the guards. Geeze, was your dad a *guard*? If so, why would he stay in such terrible conditions, with no back-up and such obviously perverted, out of control management? Jobs aren't *that* hard to come by and heaven knows prison guard doesn't pay so much that you put yourself in a life threatening situation. Unless, of course, he worked(s) at Pelican Bay in CA, where a guard can make $100,000 a year, with *really* good pension benefits.

Federal guards have to go to a long school, pass all sorts of background checks, personality checks, intensive testing both mentally, physically and emotionally. You sound like you've been watching too many movies.


18 posted on 10/31/2004 1:13:00 PM PST by toomuchcoffee
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To: toomuchcoffee
We lived adjecent to prison grounds for decades. It was a very convenient job for my dad. I presume you may work in the federal system which is an entirely different animal than state run prisons within some states.

I'll let the guards in Pa. make my argument for me.......Hear of any shedding any light on this agressive campaign by the governor to get out the prison vote? Listen long and hard. Sit down though, because it'll be a long time until a guard or prison staffer drops a dime on the governor. When it comes to the governor of the state and his reach within the state's prisons, politically and financially, you won't find any members of the union calling attention to the governor in this matter. It's not a good carreer move.

19 posted on 10/31/2004 1:29:30 PM PST by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: RepCath; Peach; KC Burke

SOURCE: http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud

How Democrats Steal Elections - Top 10 Methods of Liberal Vote Fraud

1. Over-Voting. In Democrat strongholds like St. Louis, Philadelphia and Detroit, some precincts had 100% of their registered voters voting, with 99% of the ballots going to Gore. Clearly, multiple voting resulted in extra tallies for Gore in the 2000 election. (New York Post, 12/09/00).

2. Dead Voters. This classic Democratic method of vote fraud goes all the way back to 1960 in Chicago and Dallas. The 2000 election was no exception. In Miami-Dade County, for example, some of the 144 ineligible votes (those which officials actually admitted to) were cast by dead people, including a Haitian-American who's been deceased since 1977 (Miami-Herald, 12/24/00).

3. Mystery Voters. These "voters" cast votes anyway but are not even registered to vote. In heavily Democratic Broward County, for example, more than 400 ballots were cast by non-registered voters. (Miami-Herald 1/09/01)

4. Military ballots. Many of these votes were disqualified for the most mundane and trivial reasons. At least 1,527 valid military ballots were discarded in Florida by Democratic vote counters (Drudge Report, 11/19/00).

5. Criminals. Felons are a natural Democratic voter and they're protected on voter rolls across the country. In Florida at least 445 ex-convicts - including rapists and murderers -- voted illegally on November 7th. Nearly all of them were registered Democrats. (Miami-Herald 12/01/00)

6. Illegal aliens. These voters have long been a core liberal constituency, especially in California. In Orange County in 1996, Rep. Bob Dornan had his congressional seat stolen from him when thousands of illegal aliens voted for Loretta Sanchez (Christian Science Monitor, 9/2/97).

7. Vote-buying. Purchasing votes has long been a traditional scheme by Democrats, and not just with money. In the 2000 election in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Democratic workers initiate a "smokes-for-votes" campaign in which they paid dozens of homeless men with cigarettes if they cast ballots for Al Gore (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 11/14/00).

8. Phantom Voters. These voters don't really exist, but their ballots do. In the 1996 Lousiana Senate race, GOP candidate Woody Jenkins had the election stolen from him when he discovered that 7,454 actual votes were cast but had no paper trail to authenticate them (Behind the Headlines, F.R. Duplantier, 4/27/97).

9. Dimpled chads. Those infamous punch-cards were a ballot bonanza for Al Gore. Democratic poll workers in Palm Beach, Dade and Broward counties tampered and manipulated thousands of ineligible ballots and counted them for Gore, even though no clear vote could be discerned. (NewsMax.com 11/27, 12/22, 11/18, 11/19/00).

10. Absentee ballots. Normally it's assumed that Republicans benefit from absentee ballots. But in the case of Miami's 1997 mayoral election, hundreds of absentee ballots were made for sale or sent out to non-Miami residents. Fraud was so extensive in the race that the final results were overturned in court (FL Dept. of Law Enforcement Report, 1/5/98)."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=votefraud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=electionfraud

EVERY VOTE COUNT . . . EVEN THE FRAUDULENT ONES!!


20 posted on 10/31/2004 2:08:57 PM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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