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Las Vegas Survey: People want receipt showing how they voted
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 11/12/04

Posted on 11/12/2004 4:03:02 PM PST by Libloather

Survey: People want receipt showing how they voted
LAS VEGAS SUN
November 12, 2004 at 9:43:50 PST

An Election Day poll in Las Vegas indicated that 81 percent of voters surveyed want to take home a private "ATM style" receipt to verify for themselves their vote was counted correctly, a consulting group said Wednesday.

Lombardo Consulting Group said it surveyed 362 voters in conjunction with political science professor Michael John Burton of Ohio University.

Given a choice between leaving a voter-verified paper ballot at the polling place or taking home a receipt, 60 percent of those asked said they preferred take-home receipts and self-verification, and 36 percent said they preferred the idea of leaving a paper ballot with election officials.

Nevada Secretary of State Dean Heller, the man responsible for overseeing elections throughout the state, opposes giving voters a printed receipt, however. He said that while it may sound like a good idea, it could lead to many problems.

An employer could require a worker to show his receipt to prove he voted a certain way, or the worker could be subject to loss of his job if he didn't follow the wishes of the employer, Heller said. Unions could require a member to verify he voted a certain way in order to keep his membership, said Heller.

Any of those actions would be illegal, however. Heller also said the printed receipts could lead to electioneering problems. He referred to a ruling from his office that a casino could not give free meals to customers who showed records that they had cast their ballots. None of the problems he cited would be caused by voters themselves, however.

Nevada was the only state to use "statewide" voter-verified paper ballot printers attached to electronic voting machines on Election Day.

In a press release, Burton said that "many voters thought a private receipt that they could take home would be the best way to know if their vote was counted correctly. People are used to getting receipts from ATMs or gas stations -- and they liked the idea of getting a receipt from the voting booth."

During the election in Nevada, voters were instructed by poll workers to compare their vote selections on the electronic screen with what was printed on the voter verified paper ballot scroll. The paper ballot scrolls were retained by election officials for use in post-election audits or recounts.

The survey also examined voter interaction with Nevada's voter-verified paper ballot machines and found that only 31 percent of the voters actually compared the entire paper ballot to the machine ballot in order to ensure their vote was recorded accurately.

Lombardo Consulting Group is a corporate and political public opinion research firm with offices in Washington, D.C., and New York City.

Complete survey results can be found at http://www.lombardo consulting group.com /docs/ nvvotersurvey.pdf


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: election; electronicvoting; las; people; rats; receipt; survey; vegas; voted
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I still celebrate the idea that us red state idiots rigged a national election - district by district - right in front the smartest people on the planet...
1 posted on 11/12/2004 4:03:02 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
And in democratically run districts to boot! That Karl Rove is one diabolical dude he said with open admiration.
2 posted on 11/12/2004 4:10:31 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We are in the process of allowing them to self-actualise" LtC. Rainey, Fallujah, 11/04)
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To: Libloather
Actually, I was wishing for such a thing myself on election day. We are living in a sea of dims here in VA 8th district and I just would have felt better if I had a receipt...
3 posted on 11/12/2004 4:10:49 PM PST by meowmeow (We are all Buckhead!)
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To: Libloather

Stapled to their forehead?


4 posted on 11/12/2004 4:11:03 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Libloather

There are very good reasons why voters are forbidden from being able to prove how they voted. It is therefore necessary that procedures be in place to allow voters to see that the act of voting tangibly and permanently alters some substitution-resistant medium.


5 posted on 11/12/2004 4:13:35 PM PST by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: Libloather

A receipt would lead to disastrous consequences. I'm happy to tell anyone how I voted, but this would lead to widespread demands of proof of how I voted. It's a horrible idea.


6 posted on 11/12/2004 4:14:44 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Libloather

They were polled. I bet you if it wasn't a polling situation, it would be the dungocraps that asked.


7 posted on 11/12/2004 4:16:06 PM PST by Se7eN
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To: Libloather

I agree. Why not give a receipt?


8 posted on 11/12/2004 4:17:04 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Libloather; snopercod
Note to self about punch card ballot that is both bar-coded with the results and then laminated after voting; the voter tears off a tab on the end of the card that also has the bar-code on it.

Thus, one laminated card w holes sealed in and bar-code of the same votes sealed in; and one voter with a "receipt" having a bar-code of the results.

Bar-code to also include unique serial no. of the card.

One nice fellow said it would cost money.

Yes, it would; but it would cost less than having several of the alternatives that are more suspect and susceptible to never-ending "litigation."

9 posted on 11/12/2004 4:17:09 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Libloather

I like the idea of being able to check that my vote was counted correctly. It sure makes it a lot harder for the democrats to commit fraud.


10 posted on 11/12/2004 4:17:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: Howie66
Stapled to their forehead?

Let's tattoo it on their forehead.

11 posted on 11/12/2004 4:18:21 PM PST by jetson (throne)
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To: Beelzebubba
Why not give a receipt?

Because the lawyers would lose a bunch of business.

12 posted on 11/12/2004 4:20:36 PM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: Libloather

I LOVE this idea.


13 posted on 11/12/2004 4:21:06 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

After two elections followed by stories of democrats "correcting ballots" in Detroit, it's a very attractive idea.


14 posted on 11/12/2004 4:24:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: Libloather

A lousy idea. It would spell the end of the secret ballot. In precincts controlled by a political machine it would facilitate buying of votes and ensure a permanent lock on the elections.


15 posted on 11/12/2004 4:26:30 PM PST by Procyon
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To: Dog Gone
I'm happy to tell anyone how I voted, but this would lead to widespread demands of proof of how I voted

Perhaps the "secret ballot" concept is held in too high a regard.

I was reading something the other day along these lines (forget the author.... perhaps it was Boston T. Party).

The author's point was that accountability was more important than secrecy, and therefore individual voters should be held accountable for their mistakes, instead of under the current system where everyone is held accountable.

Such a system, in his opinion, would make voters take things more seriously, and they would study the issues more, since if they screwed up, there would be some accountability.

I haven't spent too much time thinking about, but it does seem appealing in some regards.

16 posted on 11/12/2004 4:27:38 PM PST by Mulder ("The price of freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle anywhere and any time"-- Heinlein)
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To: Procyon
It would spell the end of the secret ballot

See #15. Is that really such a bad thing?

17 posted on 11/12/2004 4:28:10 PM PST by Mulder ("The price of freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle anywhere and any time"-- Heinlein)
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To: Procyon

I mean #16


18 posted on 11/12/2004 4:28:27 PM PST by Mulder ("The price of freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle anywhere and any time"-- Heinlein)
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To: Libloather

Sounds reasonable.


19 posted on 11/12/2004 4:28:53 PM PST by pointsal
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To: Procyon
it would facilitate buying of votes and ensure a permanent lock on the elections.

As opposed to what we have now?

20 posted on 11/12/2004 4:30:59 PM PST by Tax-chick (First we had all the money, then we got all the votes, now we have all the fun!)
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