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1 posted on 11/14/2004 11:16:15 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Kinsey didn’t say, but he wrote that the psychic damage to children who have sex with adults comes from the horrified reaction of adults, not from the sex itself.

I am SO going to puke.

Take a long look at this, folks. This will be the banner by which pedophiles will seek to legitimize their "alternate lifestyle" 30 years from now. And those of us who reject it will be labelled as "hateful pedophobes."

2 posted on 11/14/2004 11:32:40 PM PST by Prime Choice (STFU ACLU.)
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To: kattracks
His critics accuse Kinsey of “Mengele medicine,” meaning that he presided over Nazi-like experiments. Not so. We have no evidence that Kinsey and his team conducted or approved of any child rapes. He just used the records of pedophiles, coldly described in the first Kinsey report as males who “with their adult backgrounds are able to recognize and interpret the boys’ experiences.” Table 34 was a moral horror, and neither Kinsey nor his patron, the Rockefeller Foundation, seemed to think that anything was amiss.

There is an extensive porn collection in the Kinsey archives at Indiana University. As I understand it, Indiana residents are permitted access (although most may not know this) since they as taxpayers subsidize the storage. I suspect that there are a number of illegal items in the collection.

3 posted on 11/14/2004 11:33:53 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: kattracks

disgusting.............barf


4 posted on 11/14/2004 11:37:50 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: kattracks
Kinsey is not the end all/be all of those advocating hedonism and child sex. It is called the Sex Positive Agenda and the Homosexual Agenda is only but a small and vocal subgroup (that is used to batter down society's laws and morals).

Here are links to institutional advocacies that stand defiant in the face of the notion of abstinence:

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Check the links/text here (preserved for posterity):

www.allaboutsex.org

...but this is not the case with All About Sex. On the contrary, the success and popularity of this site since 1997 has been nothing short of phenomenal and we appreciate all the positive sentiment - it should be clear to any sex educator or parent familiar with this site that kids want and need open, honest and non-judgmental answers to their sex and sexuality-related questions, and that if such a forum is provided to them, they will flourish with it and ask questions they wouldn't be comfortable asking anywhere else.   Rather than the days when talking about sex was only done in whispers and biology class, today's kids have so many more options for exploring the subject of sex, and, frankly, their own sexual interests. When AAS started, there was only one other site that had anything positive to say to kids about sex, but now there are many, many sites with excellent, open and honest information about sex.

However, being so successful has a negative side as well, and keeping up with the popularity of the site and the work involved in maintaining the site and providing regular, fresh content, has become more than we can handle along with our obligations to our own families and employers.   Expense has been another factor, although our host, Advances.com, has always worked with us to bring bandwidth expenses down, and this site has never been a profit-making site, and has never even taken donations.   So, for a combinations of reasons, we are closing the site and hope everyone will understand.   It has been a fantastic 7 years and we have been touched by so many of the fantastic regulars and kids who have poured out their hearts and souls talking about their sexual dilemmas, their happy and exciting first experiences, and their traumas and disappointments.   Judging by the comments we frequently get, it seems that we've touched a few people's lives and been a positive force in general, and for that we are thankful.  

Below are links to many other excellent resources for parents and for teens.

Very Sincerely, The owners and volunteers of All About Sex.org

RESOURCES FOR TEENS AND PARENTS :

Advocates For Youth - Calls for politicians to "Respect Young People's Right To Be Responsible".   Excellent site that has a section focusing on responsible sexual rights of adolescents, with excellent reading material about sex education elsewhere in the world and how it compares to the U.S.

gURL.com - A truly fantastic website created for girls that has an extensive area on sex and sexuality.   They give honest, factual answers to girl's questions without pushing any ideology.   They also have an excellent set of books for adolescent girls called the "Deal With It" series.

PFLAG Talk - Parents & Friends of Lesbian And Gay Youth - One of the most well-known and solid organizations available to gay, lesbian and bisexual youth - http://www.critpath.org/pflag-talk/

Being Girl.com - A really cool website created by the Tampax Corporation that talks about many sex-related issues (and has a sex-positive attitude), with a focus, of course, on the female body.

SexPedia - From the Discovery Channel's website, in the section focusing on sexual health, comes a 'encyclopedia' of sorts of sexual facts, from A to Z

The Coalition For Positive Sexuality ~ This site was the ONLY other site when we started that promoted a POSITIVE approach to adolescents and sex, and they helped make the AAS website so popular by being the first site to link to us!   They have excellent instructions on condoms and other safe sex practices.

Go Ask Alice! - Now one of the most established and well-known resources available to people of all ages dealing with health, in general, and more specifically, sexuality and sexual health.   It is run by Columbia University in New York and is very well done.

Like It Is! - The Brits Do Exactly That...   They Truly Tell It Like It Really Is!   No Political Agenda,   No Religious Dogma,   Just Honest And Open Conversation About Teen Sexuality, Discussed The Way It SHOULD Be In America (but isn't)

The Joys Of Teen Sex - Obviously, This Website Is Not In America...   But It Is No Parody...   It Is A Non-Politicized View On Teen Sex In The U.K., Where Adolescent Sexuality Is Considered...   NORMAL   (gasp!)

Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Condoms!! - A Fantastic Resource From The People At CONDOMANIA!

SIECUS - The Sexuality Information Education Council of the United States - A resource geared toward sex educators and parents.

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SOME ADDITIONAL FACTORS...

To be perfectly honest, there are other factors in our decision to shut down, and although those factors are a little embarrassing to admit, they are important enough that others need to know about them.   Speaking now just for myself as the creator of this site and primary owner, I have had other things to consider in keeping AAS open the last year or so including the fact that I now have a wife to consider and a family of my own to start, and negative opinions about this site (even though we rarely hear any) no longer affect me alone.   Also, sadly, the political climate in America has changed so dramatically since the Bush Administration and the Tom Delay Congress came to power that people no longer feel that they can speak out freely on controversial issues - especially if one is daring to disagree with the current political forces.

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Only a few weeks after No New Money went live last August, 24 House Republicans, led by Joseph Pitts, R-Pa., jotted off a letter to HHS Secretary Thompson asking that both SIECUS and Advocates for Youth (which was listed on the site along with more than a hundred other 'supporting organizations') be investigated."

And that is just one small example of what the political climate has become...   SIECUS is now under further vicious attack by Republicans in Congress and a score of Religious Right groups.   Keep in mind that SIECUS has been writing the sex education curricula for public and private schools in America since 1964 and is hardly a "controversial" group.   To get a better idea of exactly what is going on, you can read the complete last article posted on the AAS site in December 2003.   You can also visit the SIECUS website for the latest news.

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Despite all of the talk about condoms in schools promoting an end to STDs and pregnancies, I believe that they are merely there to advance the argument for underage sex. Kids are still getting pregnant only now we are of the opinion that "it's going to happen anyway". If you dig deeper into their writings you will find that they believe abstinence to be wrong (not that it doesn't work). They believe that it is unhealthy to supress any sexual desires.

5 posted on 11/14/2004 11:48:34 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: kattracks

I'm going to stop reading any articles about two people--Kinsey and Arafat. Everytime I read something, I feel like I need to boil my eyeballs.


14 posted on 11/15/2004 12:13:07 AM PST by beaversmom (The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
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To: kattracks

Alfred Kinsey - one of the pillars of junk science. Now a hagiography from the degenerates of Hollywood. Wow, what a surprise!


15 posted on 11/15/2004 12:21:11 AM PST by Bogolyubski
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To: kattracks; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...

Warning, the pedophile movement wanted this film, they got it. It is up to us to work AGAINST their agenda.


16 posted on 11/15/2004 12:43:31 AM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: kattracks

This marks the first time I have ever been at odds with John Leo, one of my favorite commentators. While he doesn't embrace Kinsey by any means, he softpedals Table 34, distancing Kinsey from "research" by child rapists. I don't buy for one second that Kinsey didn't direct or preside over those "experiments" any less than he did others.


19 posted on 11/15/2004 1:30:26 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Despite all your rage, you are still Democrats in a cage!)
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To: scripter; little jeremiah; lentulusgracchus; ArGee; Bryan; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP

Ping


22 posted on 11/15/2004 5:20:12 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: kattracks

Molesting children....trauma based mind control....

all in the unholy name of "Science"

The Nazis in the death camps were not the only ones who could come up with such lofty words and describe their evil as nobel ideals

The sexual immorality of the 60s brought us the arbortion hollocaust of the 70's to our present days...

Hollywood reveals it's intent upon the America of our founders once again...

The hatred of our Christ the hatred of our founders and the hatred of our culture....

And we keep making them rich so they can pump our kids heads with more of their filth...and other lies...


23 posted on 11/15/2004 5:40:49 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: kattracks
Just part of Hollywood's on-going war on "values".

The part about child sex, literally made me ill. I hope someone is keeping an eye on these child sex "activists".
24 posted on 11/15/2004 5:41:47 AM PST by rcocean
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To: kattracks
what is sin and abomination to one may be a worthwhile part of the next individual’s life

Must have missed that one in Catechism class....

25 posted on 11/15/2004 5:42:57 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: kattracks; All
HERE is one of the better short articles I have seen detailing Kinsey's crimes.
30 posted on 11/15/2004 7:26:56 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: kattracks
His critics accuse Kinsey of “Mengele medicine,” meaning that he presided over Nazi-like experiments. Not so. We have no evidence that Kinsey and his team conducted or approved of any child rapes. He just used the records of pedophiles, coldly described in the first Kinsey report as males who “with their adult backgrounds are able to recognize and interpret the boys’ experiences.” Table 34 was a moral horror, and neither Kinsey nor his patron, the Rockefeller Foundation, seemed to think that anything was amiss.

This is simply trying to let this animal Kinsey off the hook. This is what is printed in a related article:

infants as young as five months were timed with a stopwatch for "orgasm" by Kinsey's "technically trained" aides, with one four-year-old tested 24 consecutive hours for an alleged 26 "orgasms." from :

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41407 ^

Given that information Kinsey is a child molester by proxy at the very least! This monster must have told the molesters to use a stopwatch and write down what they were doing. People need to know this before they spend their money for another Hollywood love affair with a child molester!

31 posted on 11/15/2004 9:18:12 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: kattracks

A couple of points. First, people who pioneer a particular science or area of science aren’t perfect. Sigmund Freud was one of the most unscientific pioneers in a field of study; his conclusions usually lacked any research and were baseless hypothesis. Yet he is still regarded as the founder of modern psychology despite the fact his conclusions are largely ignored. Kinsey pioneered human sexual scientific research. That doesn’t mean that his research, methodology and conclusions are correct. It only means he was the first.

Some contend that attacking Kinsey is the same as attacking the science, which I disagree with. Peer review is a heartless process that crushes bad science. If you want to avoid scrutiny by your peers, you avoid peer review and just publish a book ( a practice still done today ). The science of studying human sexuality is commendable and needed. But making erroneous conclusions is the real crime.

The charges that he was a pedophile seem to confuse the nature of his research with his own sexual actions. Out of all the things I’ve read online, I’ve never seen a documented instance that proved that Kinsey sexually molested children. He did a host of other sexual acts, but molesting children wasn’t one of them. His used records of pedophiles to make poor conclusions. His adherence to medical ethics (using SS “research” )were deplorable. He is guilty of being a poor scientist, but the charges of pedophilia are ungrounded.


32 posted on 11/15/2004 11:23:36 AM PST by stacytec
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To: kattracks
"Conservatives seem quaint when they argue that Kinsey’s two reports, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953), should never have been done."

I've never heard anyone say these studies should not have been done. I have heard (and agree) that Kinsey should have conducted his studies more carefully with less bias. His studies indicate that 10% of the population is homosexual. No other study supports his conclusions in that arena.

37 posted on 11/15/2004 12:30:02 PM PST by MEGoody (Way to go, America! 4 more years!)
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To: kattracks

I was suprised (and pleased) that the radio crime reporter on KFI (www.kri640.com)
mentioned his apprehension about the current film...
because of Kinsey's questionable investigations into pedophilia.


38 posted on 11/15/2004 12:32:41 PM PST by VOA
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To: kattracks
I thought that Alfred Kinsey had been totally debunked long ago.
I find it hard to believe that anybody is still reading his crap.
49 posted on 11/15/2004 3:46:29 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: kattracks
This needs a picture


57 posted on 11/16/2004 11:38:05 AM PST by woofie
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