Posted on 11/15/2004 8:54:19 PM PST by KMC1
FRIST THOUGHTS ON SPECTOR: And they more than seem to dispute Hugh Hewitt's curious defense of a Senator who looks increasingly questionable in his support for the BUSH agenda...
Frist on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace - describing Arlen's dilemma: "Arlen made some statements the day after the election. They were disheartening to me. They were disheartening to a LOT of different people. He made those not as chairman of the judiciary committee but as an individual Senator. And he has the right to make that. Over the last week he has taken the opportunity to explain to a lot of people what he meant and what he would do. He's not yet talked to individual Senators one on one. What he will do over the course of this week is meet with Senate leadership. He will then meet with members of the existing judiciary committee to explain both what he meant, what he would do as chairman, and then ultimately the members of that committee will choose whether or not he is to serve as their chairman."
Frist on Fox News Sunday on the expectations of the post of judiciary chairman: "For them to understand that a chairman is no longer responsible just to themselves or just to their constituents back at home. But as chairman of the committee they are responsible as to the feelings, the wishes, the beliefs, the values, the procedures that are held by the majority of that committee. That is in this case the Republican caucus. Secondly he has a clear obligation as a chairman to take what the President nominates, consult with the President, take that nomination through committee in an expeditious way, a fair way, a way that gives thoughtful consideration, but doesn't spend too much time. Gets that nomination to the floor of the United States Senate. And very importantly because in the last Congress you know it didn't happen for a whole set of other reasons that have got to change, that everyone of these appelate nominees have got to get an up or down vote. Our job is to give advice and consent. And in the past we've been denied that opportunity. The chairman must make absolutely sure that we get that up or down vote in a timely fashion. (...) I would expect the chairman to go one step further, who ever that chairman is. And that is to have a strong predisposition to supporting that nominee sent over by President Bush. A Republican President to a Republican judiciary committee with adequate debate and discussion but to take that candidate all the way to the floor and have a strong predisposition of supporting that candidate including on the floor of the United States Senate."
Frist on whether or not Senator Spector has made a clear and convincing case to the Republican Leadership yet. "Uh not yet..."
Frist further went on to demonstrate even more soundly in my mind that he is committed more strongly than ever to get ALL of President Bush's nominees to the floor for an up or down vote. The Tyranny of the Minority is something that must be put to an end - and there should be considerable scrutiny of whoever sits in the chairman's seat to be assured that getting nominees confirmed becomes not just job one - but the only job of the day until they are all - every last one of them confirmed.
Hold your friends close.
Hold your enemies closer.
The leader of the Republican party is leading. Dubya lead the party to a re-election of President and solidified majorities in Congress. We've cut taxes, fought wars, passed conservative legislation, prevented liberal schemes, and confirmed conservative judges but all I see from the far right is unrealistic standards and criticism of Republicans, promises of retribution to Republicans who vote as a representative of their constituents, and admiration of the rats.
The fringe says "Frist is spineless and incompetent and Specter is an evil abomination. A rat would be better than Specter." Some of these "conservatives" supported the rat running against Specter and asked Freepers on this "conservative" board to vote for the rat too.
I can't understand why but the fringe seems to hate Republicans because Republicans often vote conservative but you can't always count on it, but they like the rats because they never vote conservative and you can always count on it. All this week I read comments like "at least we know how a rat will vote." They must think this is a valid argument.
They are not friends to this administration.
If you believe Dubya will send up activist judges,
I'm fringe right.
Yes.
If I want a senator with backbone who won't let a minority leader like Daschle dictate Senate policy,
If you believe taxcuts, authorization for war, a PBA ban, sunsetting the AWB, ect are the dictated policy of Daschle,
I'm fringe right.
Yes.
If I dispise spineless leadership the likes of which Dole, Lott and Frist exmplify,
If you dispise Dole Lott and Frist, IOW the complete Senate Majority leader lineup from the historic Republican take over in 1994 until today,
I'm fringe right.
Yes.
Ah the good ol days of Majority Leader Mitchell and Byrd.
Arlen Spector spoke to the press last week and stated (paraphrased), if the President sends up anyone not pro-choice, that nominee will be DOA.
Your logic tells you, that if we disagree with Spector we're anti-Bush, not friends of this administration.
If that's what passes for logic, for you, fine.
I didin't suggest Bush would send up activist judges.
Taxcuts, authorization for war, a PBA ban, sunsetting the AWB are not the perview of the Chairman of the Judicial Committee. And strangely enough, that was what we were talking about. Daschle was blocking judicial nominees. That is the perview of the Chairman of the Judicial Committee. Looks like you're having a bit of a problem keeping on subject.
Please provide one example of conservative legislation that Dole, Lott or Frist authored.
That wasn't what Specter said. That is what the the media told you. Specter merly gave a reasoned assesment of the difficulty in confirming a far right judge.
The liberal media would love nothing better than to fuel a battle between the moderates and the kook right. They push a few buttons and the kook right follows like sheep.
Well you've already proven you don't know your left from your right, so your opinion is essentially worthless. Later.
No, you completely ignored the fact that Dubya nominates judges and I pointed it out.
And strangely enough, that was what we were talking about. Daschle was blocking judicial nominees. That is the perview of the Chairman of the Judicial Committee. Looks like you're having a bit of a problem keeping on subject.
Strangely enough I thought Leahy was the Chairman of the Judicial Committee while the rats were in power. Looks like I'm having trouble keeping on your subject anyways. You've lost me on this one. I don't really need clarification if your lost too.
Please provide one example of conservative legislation that Dole, Lott or Frist authored.
You are evading your points. You said they were spineless yet they fought for taxcuts, welfare reform, and more. And they passed it. Now you want talk about authoring legislation.
I've explained my opinion very well. I'm not trying to convince you DoughtyOne. That is impossible. I'm trying to convince other readers who might be inclined to grab their pitchforks and run to the battle the liberal media directs them to.
I have no hope that you will see how you have been manipulated
No, you completely ignored the fact that Dubya nominates judges and I pointed it out.
Which was a complete waste of time since nobody implied otherwise. It's also an attempt to act as if you have more understanding of the subject, which you obviously don't.
And strangely enough, that was what we were talking about. Daschle was blocking judicial nominees. That is the perview of the Chairman of the Judicial Committee. Looks like you're having a bit of a problem keeping on subject.
Strangely enough I thought Leahy was the Chairman of the Judicial Committee while the rats were in power. Looks like I'm having trouble keeping on your subject anyways. You've lost me on this one. I don't really need clarification if your lost too.
Dang fella, get a grip. Are you aware of Daschle's moves to block votes on Judicial nominees or not? Of course he's not the Chair of the Judicial committee. Nobody said he was. He was however manipulating the process from a miniority position, precisely why I'm addressing the issue of spineless Republican leadership.
Please provide one example of conservative legislation that Dole, Lott or Frist authored.
You are evading your points. You said they were spineless yet they fought for taxcuts, welfare reform, and more. And they passed it. Now you want talk about authoring legislation.
They fought for...? LOL, Dole, Lott and Frist can hardly be characterized as having seriously fought for much of anything in their leadership of the Senate. They can however be described quite accurately as having spent most of their time in Senate leadership equivocating.
I've explained my opinion very well. I'm not trying to convince you DoughtyOne. That is impossible. I'm trying to convince other readers who might be inclined to grab their pitchforks and run to the battle the liberal media directs them to.
No, I would say that's a mischaracterization. You have sought to change the subject, avoid the obvious and mischaracterize the truth. I've called you on it each time. Changing your mind isn't important to me either. And for the same reasons you state, I am responding so that folks can see what you're up to.
I have no hope that you will see how you have been manipulated
You have sought to caste me as manipulated, presumably by the MSM. The truth is, I watched Specter make the comments myself. So who is doing the manipulating around here, if not you?
If you don't understand these issues that's okay by me. Find another topic that you do and go for it.
I read your response. I have nothing further to add.
I'm just sick of all of the criticism of Frist. People blame him for not getting the President's nominees through this Congress. Fact is, under any option (nucular or otherwise) Frist needs at least 50 Senators or there isn't a thing he can do. He had 51 Republicans plus Zell, but Chafee and the Maine Chicks reportedly weren't in favor of the nucular option. That left him at least one vote short.
Frist is not stupid and not a coward. He'll do just fine. We have the votes in the next Congress; there's no reason to tar and feather Frist at this point.
That remains to be seen.
He had 51 Republicans plus Zell, but Chafee and the Maine Chicks reportedly weren't in favor of the nucular option. That left him at least one vote short.
[R]eportedly weren't in favor????
This needed to be brought to a pass or fail vote so the responsible parties could be held accountable or at least be pressured.
Wasn't Hugh a HUGE CHEERLEADER for RINO
Ahhhhhnold??
He'll probably take on the cause of
amending the constitution, so his buddy
can run for the Presidency.
Too bad they've sold out the babies!
Thank you. Have a good night.
Believe me, it's not just you who sees the same weaknesses in our esteemed Republican leadership, particularly the Senate. If these guys give the Chair to Specter, I hope they pay the devil. What in hell is the use of winning if they don't do something with the victory? And, if W continues with his "new tone", I'm gonna bail.
You're touching on some pretty good points there. The only problem with your logic was that bailing part. Believe me, if there was a viable alternative, I'd already be a part of it. There isn't at the present time.
I'm glad you asked.
I called in yet again, identified myself as ApesForEvolution and stated what I wanted to talk to King Arlen's jester about.
He pussied out and would'nt take my call.
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But, Hugh. Hugh Hewitt:
How were those Lg Cheese/Med. Pepperoni Pizzas from Z's down on Alton in Irvine tonight? LOL
Hugh, you maroons left me on on mute but had me receiving while I continued to wait patiently...
Hugh, you go to bed with Arlen Specter and call Michael Savage a knucklehead?
Shame on you Hugh...
You're pretty good on National Defense, but, pretty weak on a lot of critical issues.
FRegards,
AFE
Hey Hugh!
Good evening...
Good evening AfE. I see you're a busy camper this evening.
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