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Hand-Me-Down Dish Fetches $5.7M at Auction
News.Orb6.com ^ | 11/18/04 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/19/2004 2:05:58 PM PST by JusticeTalion

SAN FRANCISCO - A hand-me-down dish used for crab dinners fetched a record $5.7 million in an auction this week, after art experts determined it was extremely rare Ming dynasty porcelain.


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The flowery, copper-red plate — which set a record for Ming art sold in a U.S. auction — once belonged to Elinor Majors Carlisle, a Berkeley businesswoman who became a public education crusader and suffragette in the 1890s.

Carlisle's father, Alexander Majors, co-founded a transcontinental freight transport company that later became the Pony Express.

Carlisle picked up the plate in the early 1900s, during one of three voyages to China. She used the plate to serve family style crab dinners.

"I could not believe my eyes when I saw it," said Dessa Goddard, director of Asian Art at auction house Bonhams & Butterfields. "It had remained in such wonderful condition despite centuries of use, and the color was so brilliant. ... I felt confident that we had found something very special."

Although the 18-inch-diameter under-glaze dish was in the family home for about a century, Carlisle's great-grandchildren didn't know its origin until art experts examined the piece. It dates from the Hongwu period (1368-98), during the reign of Zhu Yuanzhang, the first Ming emperor.

The auction house, which sent the dish to New York, Hong Kong and London for showings with collectors, estimated in September it was worth up to $2 million. San Francisco-based Bonhams & Butterfields, the world's third largest auction house, often features Asian works and specializes in West Coast relics such as rare wines, antique guns and "Disneyana".

The Ming plate features a central medallion of chrysanthemums, surrounded by a band of peony blossoms and a rim of lingzhi fungus. It depicts pomegranate and camellia blossoms and has a salmon-colored base wiped with translucent glaze.

On Wednesday, three international aficionados ratcheted up bids until Italian-born art dealer Giuseppe Eskenazi dished out $5.7 million. Eskenazi, who has been working out of offices in London since the 1950s, has distributed art to more than 70 institutions, including The Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York and the Arthur M. Sackler Gallery in Washington, D.C.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: handmedown; ming; plate
This is just incredible. Like finding buried treasure in your backyard. Ever dropped a plate before? Think about it. ;-)

God bless our troops wherever they may be.

1 posted on 11/19/2004 2:05:58 PM PST by JusticeTalion
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To: JusticeTalion

How many copies could you make for a hundred bucks?


2 posted on 11/19/2004 2:07:19 PM PST by balrog666 (The invisible and the nonexistent look very much alike.)
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To: JusticeTalion

Yes, but is it microwave safe?


3 posted on 11/19/2004 2:07:44 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom ("Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers; pray for powers equal to your tasks,"-President Bush)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Yes, but is it microwave safe?

WAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

4 posted on 11/19/2004 2:11:11 PM PST by mykroar ("Pearl Harbor" sucked . . . .and I miss you.//Freedom costs a buck-oh-five.)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Yes, but is it microwave safe?

An excellent question. I would also ask if it is dishwasher safe. With all the crab served off it, there must be residual germs. What could you do with a $5 million dollar plate anyways? One wrong move and you're out a thousand years and millions of bucks.
5 posted on 11/19/2004 2:27:29 PM PST by Blowtorch
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To: Blowtorch

Bill Clinton would buy $5,000,000 plates, just to keep Hillary from throwing them at him....


6 posted on 11/19/2004 2:31:20 PM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: JusticeTalion

Good thing that dish wasn't in my house. I would have broken it with my plastic Thor hammer.


7 posted on 11/19/2004 2:35:34 PM PST by rabidralph (Arm Tibet)
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To: JusticeTalion

"Carlisle's great-grandchildren didn't know its origin until art experts examined the piece. "

Can you say 'Antiques Road Show'?

LOL!


8 posted on 11/19/2004 2:49:04 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: JusticeTalion

Funny thing is, 30 minutes after you eat off it you're hungry again.


9 posted on 11/19/2004 3:15:58 PM PST by AggieCPA (Howdy, Ags!)
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To: JusticeTalion

Too bad they sold it so soon. Crab season just opened...


10 posted on 11/19/2004 6:03:52 PM PST by tubebender (If I had know I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: Bigh4u2

My recall of that show was a desk or some furniture sold at auction after appearing on the show for nearly half a million. I think those twin furniture experts had pegged it at some hundreds of thousands on the show. I also recall an Indian chief blanket that was appraised at around 200k. The expert called the blanket a national treasure at the time.


11 posted on 11/19/2004 6:23:27 PM PST by xp38
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To: rabidralph
I would have broken it with my plastic Thor hammer.

Or used it to play "discus thrower" out in the back yard :)

12 posted on 11/19/2004 6:26:30 PM PST by asgardshill (November 2004 - The Month That Just Kept On Giving)
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To: bullseye876
Another almost priceless example of the Greater Fool theory borne out.

The owners did have the sense to get it looked at instead of selling it in a garage sale.

How many times have you heard of somebody finding a painting or artifact at a yard sale for pennies on the dollar? It seems these people had at least a clue of it's value. However, I'm sure they were shocked to find out what that value really was.

Now I know what one looks like, I'm off to a garage sale to find my fortune. Even better if it's microwaveable!

See how easy it is? Imagine that - a microwavable dishwasher safe fortune just waiting at somebody's yard sale for me.

14 posted on 11/22/2004 1:37:20 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom ("Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers; pray for powers equal to your tasks,"-President Bush)
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To: bullseye876
I have to agree with ya
I bought some great amps like that, among other things
16 posted on 11/22/2004 3:18:42 PM PST by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: bullseye876
But is will also lower prices as supply increases..

However, the greater problem of E-bay is fraud..side from the crooks who never send the merchandise..the provenance/authenticity of much of the stuff on E-bay is questionable..I read an article recently that said that as much as 60-75% of so-called "sports memorabilia and collectibles" are outright forgeries...

17 posted on 11/22/2004 3:23:59 PM PST by ken5050
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