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Lets Give Nuclear Bomb Secrets To The "International Community"
The Plutonium Files | 1999 | Eileen Welsome

Posted on 11/21/2004 3:26:40 PM PST by festus

The insanity that the title suggests is not new. Its apparently been around since the 1940's.

"Within days of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, politicians, military leaders, scientists, and newspaper editors across the United States began the acrimonious debate over the future of the atomic bomb."

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"The issues immediately after the war revolved around the following questions : Should the bomb be placed under military or civilian control ? Should the United States relinquish the bomb and its secrets to an international commission in an effort to prevent an all-out war"

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"President Truman had expressed his support for putting the bomb under international control"

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p165-168 key passages excerpted emphasis added.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: atomic; bomb; insanity; internationalists; nuclear; nuclearsecrets; proliferation; un
The above is from a print book that I'm reading titled "The Plutonium Files" by Eileen Welsome.

As I read the above passages I couldn't believe that even right after WWII there would be a serious quest to turn over such matters to an "international commission".

I'm young enough to not remember this era and while I am familiar with the history was never aware of this.

This crowd we deal with today that wants to "turn it all over to the UN" apparently has quite a long history.

We should not be surprised I guess because 9-11 has not caused them to leave their belief that the "internation community" will defend us. If WWII didn't convince them of that 9-11 certainly won't.

It may in fact be true they are no more insane now then they've ever been, rather we are actually paying attention to their insanity more lately.

Anyway though old I thought it was relevant.

FWIW : The book documents the radiation experiments performed on people, citizens and foreigners both with and without their knowledge. Its sourced from declassified information. Its fascinating and disturbing. The book does a good job of staying objective and is certainly not a tinfoil conspiracy kind of read.

1 posted on 11/21/2004 3:26:40 PM PST by festus
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To: festus

If I'm not mistaken - Clinton liked that way of thinking - ()


2 posted on 11/21/2004 3:31:14 PM PST by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: festus
what I know is that Truman immediately decided on civilian control, rather than military. He wanted to prevent generals like Curtis Lemay from dropping them left, right and centre.
3 posted on 11/21/2004 3:31:51 PM PST by William of Orange
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To: Pastnowfuturealpha

Yep, Clinton DID give the keys to the car to the Chi-Coms.


4 posted on 11/21/2004 3:36:02 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: festus

Is there such a thing as a nuclear bomb "secret?"


5 posted on 11/21/2004 3:36:05 PM PST by stevem
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To: William of Orange
He wanted to prevent generals like Curtis Lemay from dropping them left, right and centre.

No offense, my (British?) friend, but our "generals" have always been under civilian control. Curt LeMay spent most of his career devising the best protection for the free world, e.g. the Strategic Air Command, than he did advocating their use. I consider this a canard...

6 posted on 11/21/2004 3:45:12 PM PST by Right Winged American (Nobody ever went broke underestimating the power of human stupidity. - L.L. (R. A. Heinlein))
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To: William of Orange

"He (Truman) wanted to prevent generals like Curtis LeMay from dropping them (atom bombs) left, right and center"...not that there's anything wrong with that.


7 posted on 11/21/2004 3:49:45 PM PST by henderson field
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To: henderson field

Yep, you never want a general deciding when you go to war, or you'd be at war perpetually.


8 posted on 11/21/2004 3:56:07 PM PST by Dozer3
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To: festus
There was a formal proposal at the UN, called the Lilienthal proposal, to turn over all nuclear technology to the UN security council, and at the same time drop the right of veto by permanent members of that council. This was shortly after WW II, right at the begining of the cold war - 1947 or thereabouts. The US had a nuclear monopoly at the time, and formally and solemnly offered to give it up, in favor of a world government with real power to enforce demands.

Stalin had the Russian representative veto the proposal.

The communists wanted to get nukes themselves and use them to further their dreams of world conquest. They were not interested in real power in the hands of a body that could outvote them.

This really happened, no joke, no science fiction or alternate history or revisionism involved. You can look it up...

9 posted on 11/21/2004 4:26:28 PM PST by JasonC
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One problem not discussed is the tendency as energy supplies get more reduced, nuclear power will need to be used more. Any time you have nuclear power to generate electicity, the bomb is a short step away. Nuclear proliferation control will be a case of swimming against the tide.


10 posted on 11/21/2004 4:54:35 PM PST by meenie
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To: JasonC

Yes thats also discussed in the same pages. Simply mind boggling to me.

It got deep sixed right around the time we did the Able shot on the Bikini Atoll and the Russians quit pretending they would have abided by it in the first place.

The more I read the more I realize "The more things change the more they stay the same".


11 posted on 11/21/2004 5:11:19 PM PST by festus (Old growth timbers make the best campfires....)
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