Zogby Vs. Mitofsky (Keith Olbermann)

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[truthseeker04]

In an unsolicited e-mail to Countdown, Warren Mitofsky wrote that he was “struck by the misinformation” in our program. He heads Mitofsky International, which along with Edison Media Research, conducted the election night exit polling for the television networks and the Associated Press. I referred to the variance among the early and late exit polls, and the voting.

Insisting “there were no early exit polls” released by his company or Edison, Mr. Mitofsky wrote “the early release came from unauthorized leaks to bloggers who posted misinformation.”

Mitofsky compared those leaks to “the score at half time at a football game” and said the “leakers were reading complex displays intended for trained statisticians. The leakers did not understand what they were reading and the bloggers did not know they were getting misinformation.”

[Always Right]

FR identified it as misinformation.

[AmericaUnited]

There could be some truth to this. The "leakers" could have read the "raw", non-male/female adjusted numbers and not realized it. ???

[em2vn]

This doesn't comport with the article. Pulling it might be a good move.

[smonk]

olbermann's mouth is going to put him on the street again.

[Stentor]

olbermann's mouth is going to put him on the street again.

Is he back from "vacation"?

[truthseeker04]

The basis for Olbermann starting this crusade weeks ago was that he thought the exit polling data from Mitofsky's company couldn't have been that off from the actual voting results without voter fraud taking place. He also pointed to Zogby's polling data using the same source.

But in this latest post, Mitofsky disputed Olbermann's contention as misinformation, since Olbermann was taking the results out of context. John Zogby is also quoted as saying, “I don't think that exit polls can be used as a barometer for the accuracy of an election itself”.

Therefore, this post disputes Olbermann's main argument for voter fraud. The fact it is done by the original source he is using to make the charge in the first place is very relevant.

[EDINVA]

Olberman is a total fool .. my favorite part is that Zogby got THOUSANDS of emails that he can't respond to so is using "Countdown" as a 'mass email' ... AS IF thousands actually watch that moron.

[smonk]

---Is he back from "vacation"?---

I don't watch his crappy, tendentious little show anymore, so I didn't know that he had gone missing.

[DennisR]

Note to Keith O: Exit polls mean absolutely nothing...zero...nada...zilch...nichts. It is the totalling of the actual votes that matters. Period. End of story. Because that is the only place people cannot lie about how they voted. Hope this brings you back to reality, a realm to which you apparently are an infrequent visitor. Oh, and hope your "show" gets cancelled - it would be a good thing.

[paudio]

I may be in the minority position here, but I calculated the results of final exit polls from several battle ground states, and they're very close to the actual results. In other words, they're quite accurate. The problem is not in the exit poll itself, but in the leaking and in the interpretation of the early waves of exit polls. Dems and Olbermman used the early waves as their main argument for fraud...

[OldFriend]

Spinning away from the truth. Not working!!! We KNOW, and you KNOW we KNOW!

[Max Flatow]

Zogby said,

“I think it's in the interests of the nation that we study what happened in this election and widen that, let's study what happened with the exit polls, and let's come out with a definitive conclusions by a blue ribbon panel to restore the legitimacy of this election.”

What? Restore the legitimacy of this election? This election was legitimate, Mr Zogby. Sixty million people made it so. This sounds like something Dan or Peter would say.

I think he is trying to cover up why his polling data failed so miserably. I watched some of this last night. Actually had it on in the background. Didn't Zogby say that he believes his polling data came out correct? I was sitting at the computer when I heard this and thought, did I hear that right? His data was right on? He can't be serious?

[Anti-Bubba182]

"..noted pollster John Zogby explained to me on last night’s Countdown, in what we think was his first full-scale television interview since the election. “At least until we find out if there's something broken with this round of election polls… I think that the gentlemen who are responsible for the exit polls should be fully transparent, release their data, discuss their methodology. Let us see what exactly it is that happened, and why it happened.”.."

The gall of Zogby! What about his methodology? Only a crank like Olbermann would be taking to him, but with Olbermann's ratings no one is listening.

Poll Methodology - A 2004 Guide