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Plans for the Fourth Reich (EU Reich Rising)
David Icke E-Magazine ^

Posted on 11/29/2004 12:48:47 PM PST by jb6

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To: jb6
Maybe not today, but can you guarentee that in 5 years? History says obviously you can't. Now they don't have to worry about fighting France or Poland either.

Good points. The German Army of 1934, I'm sure if you sent in the NYPD, you would have taken care of Hitler in no time but by 1939 they were a force to be reckoned with.
21 posted on 11/29/2004 1:20:43 PM PST by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: BritishBulldog

How exaggerated is this?


22 posted on 11/29/2004 1:21:39 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: jb6
Russia will eventually then fall

Can it? Boundaries are redrawn all the time, the gov't may fall, yet the people will still be there. Ukraine split off and remained significantly Russian in part, the same part as always. Siberia may split off and remain Russian. Relabel the maps, nothing changes.

23 posted on 11/29/2004 1:26:44 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: jb6

Chirac said this month after he talked to Blair that he supports "multipolarism," meaning he doesn't want the US to be the world's only superpower. He & Schroeder want the EU to be another superpower. Economically they might be a superpower, seeing as how the combined GDP of the EU is larger than the US's. But militarily, they're a paper tiger. They might think they're powerful, but they can't force anybody to do anything without the military might to back it up, and unless they start spending lots of money on defense (which they can't afford to do), they'll never match the strength of the US.


24 posted on 11/29/2004 1:27:11 PM PST by mysto
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To: Petronski
This rant reminded me of the famous Calypso Louie rant at the Million Man March... you know, this one:

FARRAKHAN:Now, we're almost finished. I want to take one last look at the word atonement.

The first four letters of the word form the foundation; "a-t-o-n". . . "a-ton", "a-ton". Since this obelisk in front of us is representative of Egypt. In the 18th dynasty, a Pharaoh named Akhenaton, was the first man of this history period to destroy the pantheon of many gods and bring the people to the worship of one god. And that one god was symbolized by a sun disk with 19 rays coming out of that sun with hands holding the Egyptian Ankh - the cross of life. A-ton. The name for the one god in ancient Egypt. A- ton, the one god. 19 rays. Look at your scripture.

A woman, remember the nine, means somebody pregnant, with an idea. But, in this case, its a woman pregnant with a male child destined to rule the nations with a rod of iron. God is standing over her womb, and this child will be like the day sun, and he will say "I am the light of the world." Hands coming out of that sun, come unto me all ye that are heavy laden. I'm gonna give you rest, but I'm gonna give you life, because I am the resurrection and the life and if you believe in me, though you are dead, yet shall you live again.

You're dead, Black man. But if you believe in the god who created this sun of truth and of light with 19 rays, meaning he's pregnant with God's spirit, God's life, God's wisdom. Abraham Lincoln's statue, 19 feet high, 19 feet wide. Jefferson, 19 feet high, 16 (OFF-MIKE) and the third president, 19. Standing on the steps of the Capitol, in the light of the sun. Offering life to a people who are dead.

Black man, the a-ton represents the one God. In the Koran, Muhammad is called a light giving son. So if you look at the aton, add an "e" to it, and separate the "a" from the next four letters and you get the word a tone.

Atone means sound. And "a", the first letter of the alphabet and the first letter of the numerical system is one. So "a" equals one. So "a" sound means when you hear the "a" tone, you will hear the right sound. And when you hear the right sound from the one God calling you to divine life, you will respond. So what is the "a" tone? In music, a equals 440 vibrations. How long have we been in America? Four hundred and forty years.

Well, in the 440th year, from the one God, the Aton will come the a tone and all of us got to tune up our lives by the sound of the a tone. Because we've got to atone for all that we have done wrong. And when you atone, if you take the "t" and couple it with the "a" and hyphenate it, you get at one. So when you atone you become at one. At one with who? The Aton or the one God. Because you heard the a tone and you tuned up your life and now you're ready to make a new beginning.

All we need now is a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head.

25 posted on 11/29/2004 1:28:21 PM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Interesting where the EU Central Bank is located, isn't it? And the plans were all formatted during the 1930s.


26 posted on 11/29/2004 1:29:31 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: Nowhere Man

I think it might important to watch developments surrounding the FTAA. Looks like the EU is the test run for integrating a number of countries within and bordering hemispheres where the sovereignty of individual countries is ceded to the new creation. The FTAA will integrate even more the whole region from Canada to S. America and I believe it will have severe ramifications for our Constitution as well as legal system.


27 posted on 11/29/2004 1:33:50 PM PST by american spirit
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To: RightWhale

What changes is who owns the resources and what their political aspirations are. Siberia won't leave Russia because of China.


28 posted on 11/29/2004 1:35:23 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: jb6
Notice too, the EU is no longer to be even in Europe, they consider Georgia, Armenia, Azerbajan and Turkey their future territory too. Once Russia falls, they will have access to all the natural resources they need. They will have the new oil fields of the Caucus, the mediteranian traffic too. To some degree they will also have the US surrounded, especially with the sell outs in Canada, Mexico.

Continuing along that line of logic, if your scenario happened, I can forsee the United States having to send forces into Mexico and Canada to secure the resources and then we hand over the keys over to the FD'ers, hopefully having a responsible government up there, Mexico we might have to stay there. I don't think the EU could hold onto all of Russia, you might have a "rump Russia" left over from East of the Urals to the Pacific, but still there are lot of resources there. So you might end up with a US/UK/"Rump Russia" Axis, maybe you can toss India in. Red China is a wild card, like the EU or the Germany of the early to mid 20th Century, they had their eyes on Russia's bounty in Siberia. Maybe the EU and Islamic threat might sway them to us or they could be a loose cannon. Tough to say. Russia might be somewhat defanged in a military sense but I don't think they'd want the EU to push them around so they could resort to nukes on the EU or at least blackmailing them with them.
29 posted on 11/29/2004 1:36:56 PM PST by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: american spirit
I think it might important to watch developments surrounding the FTAA. Looks like the EU is the test run for integrating a number of countries within and bordering hemispheres where the sovereignty of individual countries is ceded to the new creation. The FTAA will integrate even more the whole region from Canada to S. America and I believe it will have severe ramifications for our Constitution as well as legal system.

I know, I have a lot of qualms about the FTAA. What the problem could be is will the US have to recognized homosexual marriages from Canada for example? How about animal sacrifice, practiced by some of the folk religions in the Carribean and Central America, would that make the laws against them here in the US and the various States null and void? That's what we might be facing.
30 posted on 11/29/2004 1:40:58 PM PST by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: jb6

Eastern Siberia has always been relatively enlightened and with enlightened leadership could be independent and do very well. Not answerable to Moscow, but still Russian.


31 posted on 11/29/2004 1:42:50 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Nowhere Man

There will be no Rump Russia. What the EU can't take the Chinese will finish. And the EU kisses arse to the Chinese. Both hate America, India, Russia and Israel. Not much left after that, especially with the EU's Arab allies.


32 posted on 11/29/2004 1:45:16 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: RightWhale

China would invade the moment Russian nukes or troops aren't defending it. China claims it all and the resources it has.


33 posted on 11/29/2004 1:46:04 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: jb6

They will need a defense alignment. The US will, out of commercial interest, provide the defense umbrella beyond what Siberia can furnish itself, and for a reasonable fee.


34 posted on 11/29/2004 1:54:32 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Nowhere Man

I agree there's a lot to consider although the useful "mediots" will feed us the usual fluff and swill about it being just a trade agreement. Sure looks to me that any elected Rep that signs off on the FTAA just might be in violation of their oath of office doesn't it?


35 posted on 11/29/2004 1:56:09 PM PST by american spirit
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To: jb6

Trade AND diplomacy??? Were doomed!!!


36 posted on 11/29/2004 1:59:24 PM PST by notigar
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To: RightWhale
Not answerable to Moscow, but still Russian.

The MINUTE Siberia declared independence you would see China mobilizing to take it.

37 posted on 11/29/2004 1:59:40 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: RightWhale

I doubt it, the US won't even defend Taiwan. We've been backing the One China policy if you haven't noticed. If the EU isn't stopped it's pretty much a bleak future on the horizon, especially with our economy leveraged to hell.


38 posted on 11/29/2004 1:59:50 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: jb6

I can't understand why Blair would sign on to this stuff. The US would have come up with a TransAtlantic Pact or whatever to include Britain in everything she might need.


39 posted on 11/29/2004 2:01:53 PM PST by hershey
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To: jb6

The US never backed the Nationalists. Siberia is a different matter.


40 posted on 11/29/2004 2:03:33 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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