[Mr. Silverback]

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[MaryFromMichigan]

(Warning: graphic sexual content)

Ok, you have our attention...

[Awestruck]

Remember when you were little and you asked your parents why something was so and they said, "Because I said so"... the same applies to the Bible.. I don't question the Lord's wisdom, I just accept it.

[sandviper]

Don't need no stinkin collage book....  just explain to the kids that homo's are like two headed toads and something went wrong with them. Just leave them alone and don't torment them.

[lizma]

But homosexual acts don’t harm anyone,

Wrong. Their selfish, animalistic acts have increased the prevalence of diseases such as HIV into our population that has also killed innocent people, hemophiliacs, wives, newborns, etc. These people are a public health nightmare.

[anniegetyourgun]

"....You haven’t experienced the power of marital sexuality to take you beyond the Self; you’re rejecting the challenge of union with someone who is really other."

I would take this a bit further to suggest that those who want a God (and His word) to condone homosexuality (e.g., I was born this way) have fashioned a new god for themselves. And the new god looks just like them. In essence, between the writers point above, and mine - we have the purest form of idolatry.

[ScottM1968]

It is a simple and consistent message within the Bible: It is wrong to have sex outside of marriage.

This is true for heterosexuals and homosexuals; however, only heterosexuals can be married.

It is not a sin to have a proclivity to one or the other. It is a sin when one acts upon it or allows it to become lust.

[johnb838]

And Allah t'Allah

[IronJack]

There's probably nothing wrong with these kinds of rational "explanations" of the Biblical injunctions against certain kinds of behavior. But in the end, it comes down to a tautology: it's wrong because it's wrong.

Morality always requires a leap of faith.

[MissAmericanPie]

From what I can understand, homosexual temple prostitutes, referred to as "dogs" in Psalms 22, mocked Christ on the cross, one can only imagine what they were saying to Him.

God refers to turning certain people over to a reprobate mind, a physical change to the brain, where men lust for men and their women lust for other women receiving into themselves, both in their physical bodies and their spirits, mete recompense for their feelings about, and disobedience to God.

The way I feel about it is that I have enough baggage to carry with me to judgment day, that I find I have to much to condemn in myself, to dare to instruct another.

That does not mean I will suffer it's acceptance as a normal element of society. We are called to behave higher than the animals, even though we are flesh animals ourselves we contain what they do not, we contain a spirit that will either live or die according to our decisions.

[xm177e2]

In homosexual acts, you’re seeking union with someone who is only your own mirror image

Bear + otter, femme + butch, cowboy + interior decorator... how can gay people be mirror images of each other, when they can be so different from each other?

Anyway, what is so inherently normal about seeking out something unlike yourself to have sex with? If that's so normal, how come it's illegal in most states to have sex with your dog? How come conservative women are supposed to marry conservative men? Isn't that narcissistic?

[kanawa]

“but that can’t be true because it’s found among animals.”

From my experience with dogs it's always about dominance and submission.
I wouldn't be suprised to find the same dynamic at the root of human behavior.

[Sloth]

Kind of silly. God is not obligated to explain His reasoning to satisfy our sense of fairness or propriety. If God says that wearing plaid is wrong, then it's wrong, regardless of whether I can think of any "good reason."

[CedarDave]

But... but... but those who condemn homosexual action are evil horrible people, God wants to kill your children, and you should all burn in hell. I know this because I heard it on this voice mail here.

NPR Reporter Says Christians Should 'Burn'

[steplock]

right - it IS found among animals --- un-natural deformed animals only.

thankfully, homosexuals CANNOT reproduce naturally - But the scumbag lawyers/judges/politicians have allowed the deviants to reproduce through very un-natural means.

I supposed this is someones answer to reduce the human population as their diseases spread unchecked.

[Mr. Jeeves]

"....You haven’t experienced the power of marital sexuality to take you beyond the Self; you’re rejecting the challenge of union with someone who is really other."

Not a bad argument, but a bit metaphysical for people looking for a logical reason "why not?"

The reasons "why not" are straightforward: diseases that spread in almost no other way, greatly increased risk of sex act-incurred physical damage to one or both homosexual partners, the impossibility of reproduction in such relationships, the confusing and unhappy role models for children that homosexuals inevitably become, and the societal damage caused by the promiscuity inherent to the lifestyle. Every single one of these objections is logical, reasonable, intellectually sound, and applicable whether one is religious or not (though gay advocates will fight them all to the death - mostly with lies and false statistics aimed at distorting the truth).

And not one of them depends on the existence of some mean guy with a white beard up in the clouds who is going to smite homosexuals with lighting bolts unless they give up their practices. ;)

[lucky7]

It is an abomination, Leviticus 18: verse 22,The Orthodox Jew feels homosexulaity is an abomination, so does God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. Nuff said?

[AM2000]

homosexual acts are less like marital intercourse than like masturbation with another body

That is interesting. Food for thought.

[Blood of Tyrants]

If you want an example, think of the anonymous, no-brakes promiscuity of men who have sex with hundreds, even thousands, of other men.

According to one questionairre, a very large percentage of homosexual men (something like 35%) had indicated that they had had "well over 500" sexual partners.

[June Cleaver]

God's perfect timing ping!