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From King David to Freud to Marx, new book traces a family’s history
JTA News ^ | 10/24/04 | Bill Gladstone

Posted on 12/09/2004 9:38:06 PM PST by Bella_Bru

TORONTO, Oct. 24 (JTA) — You may not find Dr. Neil Rosenstein’s new book listed on national best-seller lists, but the noted genealogist — with his tongue halfway in his cheek — compares it to the popular thriller “The Da Vinci Code.”

Both books, the noted American genealogist and surgeon said, deal in varying degrees with family trees reaching back 30 centuries to the biblical House of David.

But Rosenstein, a 60-year-old New Jersey resident, notes that while Dan Brown’s novel presents a clever blend of fact and fancy, “The Lurie Legacy,” published recently by the New Jersey-based publishing house, Avotaynu, is based entirely on accurate historical information, with all sources carefully noted.

In “Legacy,” Rosenstein links the Lurie lineage — which includes such modern luminaries as Sigmund Freud and Martin Buber — to Rashi, the 11th-century sage, and many other revered Jewish figures from Hillel to Hezekiah — and ultimately to King David of the 10th century BCE.

The book significantly extends on Rosenstein’s monumental 1990 work, “The Unbroken Chain,” which focused on the genealogies of the major Ashkenazi rabbinic dynasties from medieval times to the present. Rosenstein joked that “Legacy” is a “prequel” to the earlier book — “you know, just like in the Star Wars series.”

The earlier work documented the descendants of the legendary 16th-century Rabbi Meir Katzenellenbogen of Padua, who gave rise to the Ger, Bobov and other major Chasidic dynasties of 18th-century Europe.

The new book enlarges the genealogical pyramid, connecting it to Rabbi Jehiel Lurie, head of the 13th-century rabbinical court in Brest-Litovsk, then back to Rashi and beyond.

In a foreword, former Israeli Chief Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau unequivocally endorsed the validity of the historical links. “After examining the subject, I came to the conclusion that indeed it is correct to connect the Lurie family back to the Rashi — and from there to Rabbi Yochanan HaSandlar, King Yehizkiyahu and, obviously, to King David,” he wrote.

The Guinness Book of Records has also accepted the Luries as the oldest-known living family in the world today, citing them in the “longest lineage” category in its 1999 edition.

The family tree boasts an astonishing array of celebrated historical figures from the prophet Isaiah to Sir Isaiah Berlin, from Felix Mendelssohn to Karl Marx and Moses Montefiore.

The list also includes Yehudi Menuhin, Helena Rubinstein, the Rothschilds and even Rosenstein himself. If it begins to sound like a “Who’s Who” of the Ashkenazi world, that’s because it is.

Rabbi Beryl Wein, former head of the Rockland, N.Y., Sha’arei Torah yeshiva, once estimated that the Katzenellenbogen tree links more than half of the Ashkenazi Jews in the world. If so, Rosenstein conjectures that the Lurie dynasty “would possibly connect most, if not all” Ashkenazi Jews.

Regarded as the most prominent and ancient of all Ashkenazi families, the Lurie clan apparently originated in 13th-century France. Although one obscure tradition suggests the name arose from the Hebrew phrase “le-or Yah” — “by God’s light” — Rosenstein considers it more likely that the name derived from the name of the town of Loire on the Rhone River.

Illustrious personages bearing variants of the name — such as Lourie, Luria, Loria, Lorie and Lurya — include the Nobel Prize-winning Italian physician Salvador Luria (1912-1991) and internationally renowned political cartoonist Ranan Lurie, who penned the book’s preface.

However, Rosenstein cautions that numerous prominent Luries, including the famous 16th-century kabbalist Rabbi Isaac Lurie of Safed, known as the Ari, cannot yet be connected to the clan with historical accuracy.

Another important relation is Rebecca Lipa Anikster, whose unique 19th-century Yiddish-Hebrew autobiography, “Zecher Olam,” is painstakingly reproduced in the book and translated in full. But Rosenstein is still awaiting the emergence of new evidence that will pinpoint Anikster’s place in the family tree with precision.

“Sometimes there will be things that will not have an answer,” he said. “In such cases, we can only say ‘Taku’ just as we do sometimes when reading the Talmud. ‘Taku’ means we have to wait for Eliyahu the Prophet to come along to tell us what is the right answer.”

The book recounts many historical anecdotes, including the unverified tale of the Jewish pope — a cousin of Rashi’s named Elchanan who, according to legend, converted and became the Roman Catholic Pope Andreas.

A more central anecdote involves a 19th-century figure, Yoneh Lurie of Moghilev.

One afternoon in 1812, Lurie’s Minchah prayer was interrupted by Napoleon, whose army had just been defeated and who was in need of assistance.

Yoneh responded nobly to the emperor’s request for help and received Napoleon’s gold-embroidered greatcoat as a token of appreciation. The jacket was later fashioned into a parochet, a curtain for the holy ark, and now belongs to the Haifa Museum.

The book presents numerous rare and previously unpublished documents, including a 68-page 19th-century family pedigree by Simcha Lurie of Minsk, nephew of the esteemed talmudist, Rabbi David Lurie, or the Radal. Rosenstein acquired the manuscript for an unspecified sum from a Brooklyn rare-books dealer in 2000.

Through diligent presentation of original sources, Rosenstein says he hopes to reverse several longstanding mistakes and textual misreadings that had been handed down as facts by generations of previous researchers.

While not all readers will care for such obscure and erudite details, publisher Gary Mokotoff said many will appreciate the lavish reproductions of original sources and antique illustrations, as well as the 50 pages of detailed family charts at the back. Mokotoff said he sees the 390-page, large-format volume as a “coffee-table book.”

“We didn’t really publish it for the genealogical community, we published it for the Jewish community,” he said. “People will want it because it tells the history of a great Jewish family.”


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1 posted on 12/09/2004 9:38:06 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: malakhi; Alouette; veronica; dennisw; SJackson; Quix

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2 posted on 12/09/2004 9:39:43 PM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Bella_Bru

I'm not familiar with the term, "BCE." It must be from the foreign language of atheism. (Dripping with sarcasm)


3 posted on 12/09/2004 10:15:06 PM PST by elephantlips
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To: Bella_Bru

Interesting. Thanks for the ping!


4 posted on 12/09/2004 10:24:33 PM PST by malakhi
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To: elephantlips
I'm not familiar with the term, "BCE."

Perhaps you should look it up then.

It must be from the foreign language of atheism. (Dripping with sarcasm)

Saying "10th century BCE" will be easier for most to understand than "in the 27th century of the Hebrew calendar".

5 posted on 12/09/2004 10:29:05 PM PST by malakhi
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To: malakhi

Since the "Before the Common Era" refers to exactly what "Before Christ" has for centuries, why not simply keep the old verbage without politically correct sanitation?

Yes BC and AD have religious canotations...as does the BCE and CE phrases--reference to the same calender.


6 posted on 12/09/2004 10:40:58 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: elephantlips

A google search found this.



The "Common Era" (i.e. nowadays)
If you clicked on a link to this page it's probably because you're wondering what "CE" or "BCE" means. "CE" means "Common Era" (or alternatively, "Christian Era") and refers to the same dates as "AD" or "Anno Domini" does. (Except that "AD" goes before the year number and "CE" goes after it: e.g. "AD 1996" is the same year as "1996 CE".) Why does it matter? Why invent another abbreviation? Well, an awfull lot of people don't realize what AD stands for or means. "Anno Domini" is Latin for "in the year of Our Lord", referring to Our Lord Jesus Christ. That is, "AD 1996" literally means "in the 1996'th year since the birth of the Christ." Now not all the world is Christian, so it makes no sense for a Jew, a Moslem, a Hindu, a Witch, a Druid, or an atheist to refer to the date as being in the year of "their Lord" when they don't follow him.

So "CE" is a more considerate way of labelling dates in the Gregorian calendar without rubbing non-Christian's noses in the fact that so much of the world is using a calendar based on the alleged birth-year of the man we Christians believe to be the Messiah. (Note that there are other calendars in use -- the Gregorian calendar is not universal. So there are plenty of people with their own perfectly good calendars who have to keep track of dates in our calendar so they can do international business, or just to communicate with the folks in their own neighbourhood if they live in a country that uses the Gregorian calendar.)

It's also more accurate for Christians, since today's best guesses as to when Jesus of Nazareth was born differ by four to six years from the best guesses the folks who invented our calendar had. So it is highly unlikely that Jesus was born in the year 1 CE. Which means that if one insists on calling that year AD 1, one is probably off by about five years. Personally, being a bit of a traditionalist, I'll probably continue using AD on personal correspondence with other Christians or folks who I know won't care and on certain published (or web-published or posted) stuff intended primarly for a Christian audience or intended to present an intensely personal and religious topic. Even though I know it's off by four to six years. I'm going to try to consistently use CE the rest of the time (when I bother to use either), and if I slip up I expect to be called on it so I can fix it.

Before Common Era (i.e. a loooong time ago)
As most people know, "BC" stands for "before Christ", and is therefore subject to the exact same problems as "AD". That is to say, for non-Christians it's somewhat inconsiderate and for Christians it's wrong by four to six years. So the common alternative is "BCE", or "Before the Common Era", which has the wonderful advantage of looking a whole lot like "BC", which it replaces.

Is this "Politically Correct"?
Well, it's polite and it's more accurate. I don't think anybody wants to go around changing all the dates on medieval tax records to pretend our ancestors used religiously-neutral language, or anything like that. It's just more considerate towards non-Christians, and it means that Christians discussing the actual date of the birth of Jesus don't have to say silly things like "Christ was probably born around 4 years Before Christ." Instead we can say, "... around the year 4 BCE, possibly as early as 6 BCE."

So never mind the "political correctness" angle -- just look at it in terms of politeness, consideration, and accuracy.

The Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance web site has a discussion of this.


7 posted on 12/09/2004 10:45:45 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: elephantlips
Well you know...
Wouldn't want to offend anyone.
8 posted on 12/09/2004 10:48:04 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: AnalogReigns
Since the "Before the Common Era" refers to exactly what "Before Christ" has for centuries, why not simply keep the old verbage without politically correct sanitation?

"Christ" is the English version of the Greek translation of the Hebrew moshiach. I don't believe that Jesus was the messiah, so it would be inappropriate of me to refer to, for example, the reign of King David as being in "the 10th century Before Christ".

On the other hand, the Gregorian calendar is used almost universally in the Western world. Since it is the "common" or standard calendar, one can refer to dates on it as relating to the "common era". The same dates are used, but the religious facet is removed.

For those who wish to read CE as "Christian Era", I have no objections.

9 posted on 12/09/2004 10:48:45 PM PST by malakhi
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To: Bella_Bru
Interesting. I've been trying to trace my ancestry. I can only go back to early-mid 1800's so far on either side of my family although I know the original version of my surname.

The most signifiant thing I found is that the word hooligan may have been coined to one of my surname's variants.

10 posted on 12/09/2004 10:57:27 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: Bella_Bru

BTTT


11 posted on 12/09/2004 11:12:52 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Bella_Bru

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12 posted on 12/09/2004 11:23:31 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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I'm not familiar with the term, "BCE." It must be from the foreign language of atheism. (Dripping with sarcasm)

This is a book by a Jewish author intended for a religious Jewish audience. It is a non-sectarian alternative for referencing Gergorian dates. The BCE and CE has been in use for centuries. It is not the invention of atheists, unless you consider "atheists" to mean anyone who is not Christian.

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13 posted on 12/10/2004 6:48:20 AM PST by Alouette ("Who is for the LORD, come with me!" -- Mattisyahu ben Yohanon, father of Judah Maccabee)
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To: AnalogReigns
Since the "Before the Common Era" refers to exactly what "Before Christ" has for centuries, why not simply keep the old verbage without politically correct sanitation?

As I recall, the calender we use was developed in the middle ages. They could not reconcile the fact that Jesus had to be born at least two years before Herod's death, which was in 4BC, and the fact that the census took place in 6AD, so they split the difference.

Almost no one today believes that the calender accurately reflects the date of Jesus' birth.

14 posted on 12/10/2004 7:09:56 AM PST by Inyokern
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To: elephantlips

Atheism? This is a Jewish author. Why would a Jewish author use Christian terms, such as BC and AD? Believe it or not, not everyone is a Christian.


15 posted on 12/10/2004 9:18:05 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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Speaking of good books for gifts, for young adults, everyone please have a look at "The Hebrew Kid and the Apache Maiden." You can order it on Amazon. It is a new book by writer Robert Avrech, who wrote "A Stranger Among Us." It's a great read and an historical novel about Jewish immigrants in the West.


16 posted on 12/10/2004 9:24:37 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: malakhi

Your're welcome. I thought it was a facinating article!


17 posted on 12/10/2004 9:25:28 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Bella_Bru

This article is relevant to my family history, actually. I'm a direct descendant of the Maharal of Prague, related to Rashi, and -- unforunately -- related to John Forbes Kerry (on his father's side).

Thanks for posting!


18 posted on 12/11/2004 3:04:16 PM PST by Jew4GWB (Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in.)
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To: Bella_Bru

how are the anikster family related?


19 posted on 02/16/2005 12:15:37 PM PST by yehudaa
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Excuse me?


20 posted on 02/16/2005 1:20:43 PM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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