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To: carlr

I'm sorry but that is very short sited on your part.

There are several ways that Mars "theoretically" could be made habitable for human life. I don't have the time to relate all of them, but for starters we can thicken the atmosphere by melting the caps or by using comets and slamming them purposefully into the planet bringing water an CO2 to the atmosphere. We can also bioengineer plants to subsist on the current and later thickened atmosphere to produce oxygen.

With current technology we have the basic know how it is merely a matter of scale and developing the engineering to do it.


12 posted on 12/13/2004 3:02:59 PM PST by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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To: tricky_k_1972
Don`t take it as personal because there was no intent of that.
I do feel the need to point out that the two things you mentioned ,melting polar ice caps,slamming comets into the atmosphere are virtually impossible.The energy required to achieve either of these feats would make it scientifically unsound.That is if we could do this we would be able to find a solution to preserving life here at far less cost and energy requirments.Sort of like inventing the computer to learn how to spell.

Even if economic or feasible it still does not change the fact that without heat,life cannot exist.Heat comes from the Sun or the transition of matter from one form to another.On Mars the sun cannot provide adequate heat because of the distance so energy must be expended to create it.

This idea that Mars once had life is just another way that huminists attempt to push creation off the table.

14 posted on 12/13/2004 3:20:01 PM PST by carlr
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To: tricky_k_1972
I don't have the time to relate all of them, but for starters we can thicken the atmosphere by melting the caps or by using comets and slamming them purposefully into the planet bringing water an CO2 to the atmosphere

Excuse me, but the reason given by most scientists as to why Mars lost its atmosphere is because it lost its magnetic core because the core cooled off. This caused the loss of atmosphere. If this is true, then bringing in water and co2 is not going to help. Mars still does not have a molten core, iron to be exact, that it needs to have magnetism. Without it, we cannot hope to terra form it. This problem would have to be solved first or any atmosphere we bring in will be lost to space just as the original was.

17 posted on 12/13/2004 3:27:53 PM PST by calex59
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To: tricky_k_1972
Is there anything to the science fiction notion of nuking strategic places all over the planet? Here's one interesting blog out there's opinion:

Nuke Mars For its own good!

Now that the soviets are gone, we have all of these nuclear weapons lying around. Many are still attached to rockets capable of escape velocity. I propose that 90% of these be launched to detonate on the Martian icecap. There is a lot of water frozen on mars, and the energy of a colossal nuclear explosion will suspend a haze of water vapor and dust into the martian atmosphere. This will create a greenhouse effect, warming the planet, melting more ice, and causing more atmospheric haze. As the Martian atmosphere becomes warmer and wetter, several more rockets with varied photosynthetic bacteria should be sent to Mars as well. Natural selection and mutation (no doubt fueled by residual radiaoactivity) should allow these robust critters to adapt and begin putting out an oxygen atmosphere. I am a little concerned about available carbon but I understand the Mars does have some areas of carbon dioxide ice, which could be freed up for use by the remaining 10% of the nuclear missiles.

I see this program as akin to planting a seed from which will grow a wondrous fruit-bearing tree. In a few hundred years out descendants will thank us for beating our swords into plowshares and planting the seeds of a beautiful new world for them.

31 posted on 12/13/2004 4:01:30 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: tricky_k_1972
Not only was there life on Mars in the distant past, there was intelligent life. I am confident that this will be proven when/if we go there. It's possible some form of life still exists there.
46 posted on 12/13/2004 5:48:52 PM PST by Soulfull
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To: tricky_k_1972

So anyway, there was this martian spacecraft that landed in this farmers field. The farmer and his wife were very frightened as it landed about 40 yards from their back porch. Suddenly the door to the spacecraft slowly opened and 2 seemingly human like creatures walk out and up to the porch where the farmer and his wife were watching. The male martian raised his right hand in a sign of peace and then spoke and said, "We are from Mars and come in peace on a scientific mission." So after a few moments the farmer invited the two aliens into the house whereupon the martian and his female martian companion spoke and asked questions about the earth, entertainment, politics, oceans, continents,and every conceivable subjectmatter. Then the subject of reproduction came up and the martian asked how humans reproduce. So the farmer explaind the conjugal act. The martian said "Well, that is very similar to how it is done on mars." He then propositioned the farmer to allow him to experience the act with a human and let his female martian companion experience the act with him. Well the farmer got somewhat riled up at this proposition, saying " We don't act like that here on the earth." The martian explained it was for scientific endeavors and slowly convinced the farmer to consent. So the male martian and the farmers wife retired to the barn. She was somewhat confused when he disrobed and saw a tiny vestigeal member presented. She laughed and said "That certainly won't work." The martian said why. She said because, well, not want to hurt his feelings, said well, its too small. So the martian reached up to his right ear and twisted it. At that instant his pecker emerged about 9 inches and looked like a pencil. The farmers wife said, well, thats better, but it still won't work. The martian said "Why"? She said the diameter,...its, its too skinny. Whereupon the martian took his left hand and twisted his left ear. Suddenly the martins member looked like a hot house cucumber. She said, "That will work." Once the conjugation was completed, they returned to the house and there was a somewhat perturbed farmer washing the coffee cups. He said to his wife, "Well, how did it go?" She said "Great, really great." The farmer was fuming. She said to her husband, "How was it for you?" He said, "It was awful." The wife asked "Why?". The farmer replied curtly, "The bitch kept trying to rip off my ears."...............................Uh Oh...I thought it said "Wife Swapping on Mars"


51 posted on 12/13/2004 6:07:55 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (p)
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