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Could lost Confederate symbols represent economic boon for South?
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Posted on 12/18/2004 10:02:21 AM PST by Ellesu

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- From a renamed "Confederate Boulevard" in Arkansas to the shrunken "Heart of Dixie" on Alabama's license plates, some in the South are erasing memories of their Civil War pasts with the hope of enticing investment. "Business people and tourists don't know what to think about slavery, elitism, the Civil War," says Ted Ownby of the Center for the Study of Southern Culture at the University of Mississippi. "So one way is to give them an easy out. We'll change the name of this building, this street, change this display."

Over the last few years, more and more Confederate roots seem to be vanishing around the South. At Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tenn., last year, the school dropped "Confederate" from Confederate Memorial Hall. The University of Mississippi dropped "Colonel Rebel" as its on-field mascot. Georgia downsized, and then eventually removed a Confederate symbol from its state flag. And South Carolina's NAACP has been boycotting business in that state since 2000 in hopes of removing the Confederate flag from the statehouse grounds.

In Little Rock, the Confederate Boulevard change came just before the opening of the Clinton Library. In Alabama, "Heart of Dixie" was made smaller on the license plates in favor of specialty plates that bring in dollars for special interests.

John Shelton Reed, a professor emeritus at the University of North Carolina's Center for the Study of the American South, says the trend is clear, and business interests coupled with concern from the African-American community are the catalysts.

"Businesses named Dixie this and Dixie that, there are fewer of them than there used to be," Shelton says. "If you're a businessperson, why do you want a name that's going to raise anybody's hackles?"

Ownby says that Southern heritage's effect on business has been an issue since the Civil Rights movement.

"Little Rock, Birmingham, Selma, immediately after something horrible happened in those places, it was for a few years almost impossible to do business," Ownby says.

Jim Dailey, the mayor of Little Rock, says the Confederate Boulevard sign was changed after city officials noted that it was often the first thing visitors saw after arriving at the Little Rock airport. With the world's eyes on the opening of the Clinton Library, and with millions of tourism dollars at stake, the city opted for a different first impression.

So what exactly is the contention? Why do the stars and bars and the word "Confederate" upset so many, while others are so adamant to protect them?

"It seems to be glorifying elitism, racism and slavery," Ownby says. "It seems to celebrate one part of the community at the expense of the other."

Not so, says Ron Casteel, chief of staff for the Sons of Confederate Veterans. He calls the removal of rebel reminders a "disgusting trend" that can be pinned on political correctness.

"We honor everyone else's traditions and heritage, why should we discriminate against Confederate heritage?" Casteel says. "It is now a politically correct thing to do to erase Confederate symbols, Confederate street names, anything that is attached to something that is very much a part of political history."

But Ownby says out-of-town investors want to visit a South that isn't mired in the past. Many Southern tourist regions, like Mississippi's Gulf Coast, make special efforts to see that the atmosphere is war-free.

"They want to offer an image of a place of ease and peace, without people angry at each other," Ownby says.

Larry Griffin, a sociology and history professor at the University of North Carolina, says the South has simply become too diverse to identify with the symbols of its rebel past.

"Could these particular symbols truly represent the Southern people when they have such an extraordinary diversity?" Griffin says. "I don't believe that these kinds of symbols can represent truly a people, now of many hues, many colors and many faiths."

Historians say that it seems white Northerners are happy to let the South hash the problem out themselves, until money becomes involved.

"The white North appears to be letting the white South determine its own meaning," Griffin says. "If the symbols became so divisive that nuts and bolts economics were damaged, if there were boycotts ... the way to handle it is to get rid of the symbol, not permitting public authority to display the battle flag."

However, Griffin also argues that these symbols shouldn't be forgotten, just placed in context.

"We don't want to rewrite the past so moments are silenced or hidden," Griffin says. "The past needs to be observed and engaged, warts and all. There are places that would be proper sites for these kinds of symbols. It could be in a museum, in a national park or any of the Civil War battlefields."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Arkansas; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee; US: Texas; US: Virginia
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1 posted on 12/18/2004 10:02:21 AM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu

Yep. Renaming the streets will make it like it didn't happen. Good idea!

Man these liberals are geniuses.


2 posted on 12/18/2004 10:04:50 AM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: stainlessbanner

Might interest you.


3 posted on 12/18/2004 10:06:28 AM PST by tjwmason ("For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman!")
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To: Ellesu
Georgia downsized, and then eventually removed a Confederate symbol from its state flag.

Yes and no.

They changed from the Battle Flag to this ghastly mishmash with the Southern Cross on as part of a series of tiny flags. The ensuing 'rebellion' lead to a rethink, and a referendum was held with the choice between the new nasty one, and a design closely based on the Stars and Bars (the first national flag of the C.S.A.), the people voting heavily for the Stars and Bars. In my personal opinion the S.&B. is one of the best flags around aesthetically speaking. This is hardly downplaying the Confederacy, more exploiting people's vexiological ignorance.
4 posted on 12/18/2004 10:11:43 AM PST by tjwmason ("For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman!")
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To: Ellesu

Yup. Pretty soon they'll (maybe) talk about the document that preceeded the Constitution, y'know, the Articles of ion. (Confederat(e) removed to assuage nonsensical sensibilities)


5 posted on 12/18/2004 10:12:33 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming!)
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To: Ellesu

I am offended by the color purple. As are many others. We refuse to do business with anyone sporting purple. Ban Purple Now! ;)


6 posted on 12/18/2004 10:17:57 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Ellesu; WKB

Missippy ping needed here.


7 posted on 12/18/2004 10:21:35 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: Ellesu; selucreh; RebelDS; The Loan Arranger; Malichi; L98Fiero; ducks1944; LoudRepublicangirl; ...

Missippy ping


8 posted on 12/18/2004 10:22:49 AM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB

Thank you. ;o)


9 posted on 12/18/2004 10:23:09 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: dixiechick2000
Ask and you shall receive
10 posted on 12/18/2004 10:24:02 AM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: Ellesu

I heard the blacks were going to boycott Heaven
if the "Street of Gold" wasn't renamed MLK Blvd.


11 posted on 12/18/2004 10:27:27 AM PST by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: All
This is a public high school in Louisiana. I have attended many football games here and black and white students wave Rebel flags in the stands, Black and white parents proudly wear Rebel flag shirts and no one thinks a thing about it. Black and white students get along just fine and we would never even think about changing it. Check out the band. They will be performing at Bush's inauguration.

http://www.wmrebels.net/

http://www.rebelband.org/

http://www.rebelband.org/music/Dixie%20-%20Track%2004.mp3
12 posted on 12/18/2004 10:29:56 AM PST by Ellesu
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To: WKB

LOL! You are TOO funny. ;o)


13 posted on 12/18/2004 10:30:05 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: tjwmason

Yeah I am happy with our Georgia state flag, but not the way it came about with the last demoncrat governor barnes meddling in things, a committee came up with that eyesore flag that came before it, it was a concession to liberals who want their stupid minions to believe that a flag with a 19th century emblem is somehow detrimental to their present day lives...


14 posted on 12/18/2004 10:31:05 AM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: Ellesu

Desperate and stupid symbolic gesture.


15 posted on 12/18/2004 10:31:30 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: WKB
I heard the blacks were going to boycott Heaven if the "Street of Gold" wasn't renamed MLK Blvd.

That's just plain stupid.


16 posted on 12/18/2004 10:42:46 AM PST by rdb3 (Can I join the Pajamahadeen even if I sleep in the nude?)
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To: WKB

It's still Delta Drive to me. They can call it what they like.


17 posted on 12/18/2004 10:45:31 AM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: Ellesu
Little Rock, Birmingham, Selma, immediately after something horrible happened in those places, it was for a few years almost impossible to do business," Ownby says.

I don't think what happened in Little Rock compares to the Birmingham church bombing.

Why do these folks harp on nonsensical blackwashing of the past and ignore the modern world collpasing around arguably most of them?

Is that easier, more political or all they can do?

18 posted on 12/18/2004 10:49:31 AM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: Ellesu

They will soon start naming "Nat Turner" Avenues as symbols of Black revolt against White oppression.


19 posted on 12/18/2004 11:20:06 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Ellesu

This story is enough to make you want to go buy some groceries at Winn Dixie.


20 posted on 12/18/2004 12:07:10 PM PST by PAR35
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