Posted on 12/19/2004 12:59:24 AM PST by quietolong
*****And it has nothing to do with any malephobia. A couple of predatory verts in a city can scare the female population pretty seriously. You have some serious problems of your own to work out.*****
Yes, yes; that's EXACTLY what it has to do with. It has to do with "malephobia". That is ALL that you are promoting. You have some serious problems of your own to work out.
*****A couple of predatory verts in a city can scare the female population pretty seriously.*****
NONSENSE!
Why, all the female population has to do is to walk out on the street with their collective heads held high, and those predatory verts will scatter like mice.
You said so yourself!
****Believe me there are women there that can kick 99% of men's arses without trying.****
No-o-o-o-o-o-o, there aren't. There aren't any women like that in real life.
Not 99%. And not "without trying"?
There aren't even any MEN who can beat up 99% of the male population "without trying".
I've watched major league ballplayers pump practice homeruns into the stands off of batting practice pitches, but every one of them was "trying".
Take my word for it; they didn't just stand there with a bat in their hands and watch the ball fly off of it.
****There is a female 13 year old black belt that I wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley.****
Why? is she that ugly? Well maybe she wouldn't want to meet you in a dark alley for the same reason.
But no, there is no female 13 year old who is a threat to any man that is not a parapalegic.
Gosh Jay Hamilton, women are so BIG and STRONG, and you're so WEAK and HELPLESS. Do you ever ask a woman to walk you to your car?
Since she was wrestling at the 103 lb level, she was a junior going against generally freshmen and sophomores....she was just bigger and stronger and she wasnt having to cut weight as much....
For sure...
Something is very wrong, Mike in Iraq, some sort of very slickly-executed turnaround maneuver has been executed so deftly that no one is aware of it and yet there is a vague sense of disorientation....oh yes, I know what it is now.
Earlier in the thread, you used the story of your 103 pound female classmate as some sort of shining exemplar of grrrl power - because by God, she could kick major league boi ass and make them cry and by God, there was no reason to think any other grrrl couldn't do this if she put her mind to it...
...because when you got right down to it there really weren't any innate differences between male and female adolescents - unless, of course, maybe the females were better...
...except that as you were questioned about the story and were informed that female adolescents simply weren't that strong in the experience of others, you said...
"...Oh well, come to think of it, she was a junior and the boys in her weight class were lower classmen and maybe not quite as muscularly developed"
...This was a little factoid that you left out when you were beating the drums for grrrl power - so when you get right down to it, Mike in Iraq, this was a fairly exceptional experience, probably a VERY exceptional one, and not at all typical of what one might ordinarily expect when pitting boys against girls in physical competition -
...so perhaps your grrrlpower theme isn't really justified by the example that you've provided....
And quite frankly, Mike in Iraq, I can't make up my mind for you about matters of conscience, in terms of military service and all, but here is an article by a theologian who says that a nation defended by her women is not a nation worth defending - http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php ...
... and by the same token, I think that the fact that we have these serious intergender competitions in events such as WRESTLING is ANOTHER example of what a sick society we live in and how unworthy of defense that society is...
Food for thought.
yeah way to misquote me. I guess if you want to twist something your way you wil....
I can only speak from experience because only witnessed it and we ARENT talking about defense of our nation with women. We are talking about high school wrestling mr. Ant ag on ist...
if you are so certain women are so inferior, why dont you let your wife know and see what she thinks....
next thing you will tell me is that I am not in Iraq....
Ha HA! Zena, mere mortal, you dare to challenge the FAther of the father of the gods???? ;-P
Oh, dammit. You're THAT Cronos. I'm in it pretty deep now . . .
I am OK with girls competing on wrestling teams, if they like. In fact, this should be the trend. No all-girl wrestling teams, just a WRESTLING team. Similarly, no girls tennis, soccer, cross-country, track, golf, football, volleyball, etc. etc. Just play the sport. If you are good enough, try out for the team. If you don't make it, play JV or recreationally. The whole Title IX stuff goes away immediately. This is what (many) women say they want--equality. Let 'em have it, and see how they react.
there you go...
Title IX goes away if they are competing for the same teams....
They cant use quotas although it would probably behoove coaches to take one or two or three girls on their teams even if they arent good enough to make the cut, just so they say can they are giving everyone a shot :)
okay... let's see... teenage boy... firm teenage girl... wrestling suit... nope won't be able to hide it. To quote "Raymond" the launch sequence should be activated.
I could NOT agree more. My aunts and grandmother used to say that women wrote themselves a bad deal in this whole 'women's lib' thing.
Umm, here the "weaker" sex isn't. Keep in mind that a 5'2" 103 pound 14yr old boy has not likely gone halfway through puberty yet. A 5'4" 103 pound 17 year old "girl", with enough competitive fire to try out for men's wrestling, almost certainly has, and could very easily be a gifted athlete. If it's a one-sided affair, it may very well be in favor of the female.
Bump
103 lb, 13 year old boy, only halfway through puberty, facing the prospect of:A) a humiliating loss, or B) doing some very uncomfortable and highly personal things (and touching some things for the first time ever) in front of a boisterous crowd, including their parents!?!
No launch sequence activated there...
but there will always be one or two humiliating exceptions to the rule, of course.
Idontknow. Maybe because she’s a girl?
I guess you need to ask the producer.
I’ll give it a try;)
Great looking Xena there.
Something I stumbled across awhile back was a story/photo that the Army apparently allowed a girl and a boy to fight each other in a post boxing tournament back in 1999 out at Fort Riley, Kansas, and the girl actually won the fight.
While it may be good to know that a female soldier can handle herself well, it probably didn't do much for the male soldier's pride, so it's kind of troubling to see things like that allowed.
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