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Retiree gets probation after tussling with younger man over foul language
Canadian Press ^ | 12-15-04

Posted on 12/20/2004 6:08:04 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

Retiree gets probation after tussling with younger man over foul language

Wed Dec 15, 4:02 AM ET

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - A 79-year-old retiree who tussled with a man half his age over the man's foul language in a restaurant was sentenced to probation. But outside of that, he's been treated more like a hero than a criminal.

Bill Stevenson said the fracas began in July when he and another retired 3M engineer, Sten Gerfast, 74, were having coffee at a bagel shop. In walked Jesse Tabor, 40, talking on a cellphone and liberally using four-letter words, the men said. In an interview after the incident, Tabor said he didn't recall cursing. But Stevenson and Gerfast remember it differently.

"There was an argument on the phone," Stevenson said. "The third time he walked by our booth ... Mr. Gerfast said to me, 'Should I do something about it?' "

So Gerfast tapped Tabor on the shoulder and asked him to take his call outside, Stevenson said. But Tabor, who was with his 13-year-old daughter at the time, dismissed him. Stevenson said he got involved when Tabor continued to shout obscenities.

"I've been in lots of different places, but when I heard that kind of stuff coming in my hometown, I thought, 'Somebody's got to do something,' " Stevenson said.

Stevenson grabbed the phone from Tabor and the two men engaged in a few seconds of tug-of-war. Thinking better of it, Stevenson said he let go and Tabor "went sailing across the floor."

Stevenson pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct Tuesday and was given three months of probation. But even the lawyers at Ramsey County District Court were giving him thumbs-up signs as he left the courtroom, he said.

"I've had over 30 calls and letters and e-mails, and I've not had one negative call. They're all on my side," Stevenson said.

Gerfast was acquitted of disorderly conduct charges last month. Tabor failed to appear at a September hearing and a bench warrant was issued for him.

Stevenson claimed Tabor "mocked me about being an old man."

"I just sat there and drank my coffee," Stevenson said. "I thought, 'You can think what you want, mister, but a couple of senior citizens stood up to you, and we ought to get a little bit more respect.' "


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: fight; lastweeksnews; profanity

1 posted on 12/20/2004 6:08:05 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan

We should all do more of this.....good for Mr. Stevenson


2 posted on 12/20/2004 6:14:47 PM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: Dan from Michigan

Using a cell phone in a restaurant even without profanity is incredibly rude to those around you, your server, and especially those with you. The guy should have taken it outside. Right on old man.


3 posted on 12/20/2004 6:14:57 PM PST by andrew2527
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To: Dan from Michigan

Bill Stevenson for Prime Minister. We need someone with some guts who doesn't care what anyone thinks.


4 posted on 12/20/2004 6:20:19 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: JudyinCanada

You can't have him.
:)


5 posted on 12/20/2004 6:21:54 PM PST by andrew2527
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To: andrew2527

Aw, come on. We have free trade...


6 posted on 12/20/2004 6:23:50 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: JudyinCanada

we'll take windsor...

Oh wait. Still not worth it.


7 posted on 12/20/2004 6:24:45 PM PST by andrew2527
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To: TexasTaysor

Well done, Mr. Stevenson. I've confronted foul-mouthed punks at the local movies, although no physical contact involved. I'm not 79, however, they were half my age. The line has to be drawn somewhere. Thanks again, sir.


8 posted on 12/20/2004 6:27:24 PM PST by A Navy Vet (You're a "moderate" Muslim? Fine, speak out against your radicals and give them up!)
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To: andrew2527

Take Niagara Falls! Just let me get packed and move there before you finalize the deal.


9 posted on 12/20/2004 6:27:35 PM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: JudyinCanada

Sounds like a plan


10 posted on 12/20/2004 6:28:19 PM PST by andrew2527
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To: Dan from Michigan
Stevenson claimed Tabor "mocked me about being an old man."

Hmmm...where was the AARP during the court proceedings?
(probably not helpful as I've heard they are a left-leaning group)
11 posted on 12/20/2004 6:28:47 PM PST by VOA
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To: Dan from Michigan
Personally, I hate cell phones used in public. And, we have two. They are always turned off in public. In a business environment, they are set on 'stun,' (vibrate). When I hold seminars, the rule is that anyone whose cell phone rings, will be dismissed from the meeting.

And I've excused more than should have been necessary. If they cannot follow rules of business engagement, I do not, and will not, permit them in my audience.

12 posted on 12/20/2004 6:32:43 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Great! I have stopped several incidents similar to this. In one the foul mouthed guy was escorted from the casino with two security officers pounding him all the way to the door.

"I just can't abide rude behavior in a man." Tommy Lee Jones as Captain Call, Lonesome Dove.(I believe that is the quote or something very close.)

YES we all need to do more about this if the anti smokers can do it why can't we?

13 posted on 12/20/2004 6:32:47 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ. De Opresso Liber.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Doesn't someone have to be a citizen or at least a resident of Canada for that?


14 posted on 12/20/2004 6:47:18 PM PST by perfect stranger (Godel, Escher and Bach. The Eternal Golden Braid)
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To: A Navy Vet

The younger crowd today are incredibly undisciplined and rude. A friend is an ex-commando, and he trips the 'little' 18-30 year old sh!ts all the time in the malls.


15 posted on 12/20/2004 6:52:59 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Cobra64
Thank you for your comments. I recently walked out of a monthly $5000 hold-em tournament I had qualified for -- and was winning --because of the abhorrent behavior of two young punks at the table.

But, there is an upside to my story. The Poker Room Manager of the Flamingo heard about my abrupt departure the next day; and he promptly "86'd" (barred) the offenders from the room. I had been a long-term player -- apparently with some inherent good-will; and notably, other players at the tourney voiced concern over the uncomfortable playing conditions generated by the uncouth behavior of these ill-mannered bums. (Further good news: won the tournament the next month. *S*)

Merry Christmas, all.
16 posted on 12/20/2004 7:12:21 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: Cobra64

Well who did they learn that behavior from?


18 posted on 12/21/2004 5:33:47 AM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
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