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German intelligence cracks terror codes
Expatica ^ | 20 December 2004 | Focus magazine

Posted on 12/21/2004 2:49:28 PM PST by thegreatbeast

HAMBURG - German intelligence services have deciphered secret codes used by the Ansar al-Islam organization which is suspected of being behind many of the kidnappings and terror attacks in Iraq, according to German news magazine Focus.
In a report, Focus quotes police and intelligence authorities as saying the arrest of a man believed to have been planning an attack on Iraq's interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi in Berlin earlier this month has led to the codes being deciphered.
Franz-Hellmutt Schuerholz, president of Baden-Wuertemberg state police department, is quoted as saying: "We have managed to break the structures of the terrorist organization from the outside."
The report said that with the help of the arrested suspect authorities deciphered coded email and mobile telephone messages going right to the top of the organization.
Three men are detained in Germany on grounds of belonging to a terrorist organization following their arrests shortly before Allawi's visit to Germany on December 3. They are believed to be members of the banned northern Iraqi Kurdish group Ansar al-Islam.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ansaralislam; codebreaking; germans; germany; globaljihad; intelligence; iraq; stupid; terrorists
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Well there's nothing like breaking a code and publicizing the fact PDQ. What the fudge?
1 posted on 12/21/2004 2:49:29 PM PST by thegreatbeast
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Imagine if someone announced in 1943 'We cracked the Enigma!'..

Morons.


2 posted on 12/21/2004 2:50:50 PM PST by G32
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To: thegreatbeast

"...and by making this discovery public, rendering the discovery completely useless..."


3 posted on 12/21/2004 2:51:36 PM PST by Blast_Master
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I swear, Islamic fundamentalists don't need to develop intelligence networks. All they have to do is read the papers and watch the news to get everything they need.


4 posted on 12/21/2004 2:51:55 PM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: thegreatbeast

Good grief! This sounds like DIS-information.....hopefully.


5 posted on 12/21/2004 2:52:01 PM PST by bonfire
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Jeez, can we say stupid? What is the point of getting the thing cracked if you are going to tell everyone that you did it..... Idiots!


6 posted on 12/21/2004 2:53:47 PM PST by SeaDragon
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To: thegreatbeast

"German intelligence cracks terror codes"

German traitor gives up intelligence coup to Al Qaeda.


7 posted on 12/21/2004 2:54:24 PM PST by PeterFinn (Liberals are a greater threat to the USA than are Islamofascists.)
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There's nothing better then good publicity.</sarcasm>

Even if they assume the fact may be known to the terrorists, it's still a retarded practice to just go and blurt it all out like this.

8 posted on 12/21/2004 2:56:44 PM PST by aliquis
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Three possibilities:

1. The terrorists are too stupid to use one of the widely available, generally-considered-to-be-secure packages, the BRD has broken the cyphers they're using, and is stupidly announcing that fact to the world, so that the terrorists will switch to a secure method.

2. The terrorists are using one of the widely available, generally-considered-to-be-secure packages, but the BRD has broken it, and is stupidly announcing that fact to the world, so that the cypherpunks will begin trying to figure out what hole they've exploited so they can close it.

3. The terrorists are using one of the widely available, generally-considered-to-be-secure packages, and the BRD has found that they cannot break it, but they're announcing to the world that they have, in hopes that the terrorists will be stupid enough to switch to a less secure method.


9 posted on 12/21/2004 2:58:07 PM PST by jdege
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Well, that's nice that they tell the world.

Now, the Islamofanatics will change the code.


[Idiots seem to dominate most intel agencies in the world. Geezzz.]


10 posted on 12/21/2004 3:00:14 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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Good grief! This sounds like DIS-information.....hopefully.

yep, now do you send a message about a target and then see if the security is upgraded as a ruse or do you change the ciphers... or are the security forces on alert to NOT react to messages that are made.... or do they react to everyting... or and around and around she goes.

It's like saying that Osama Bin L has been FOUND!!! or we are NEAR.. cat and mouse is what is going on.

11 posted on 12/21/2004 3:03:05 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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What great news to tell the terrorist, especially if it is a false story and the Germans are trying to perhaps make them move on to a more breakable code.


12 posted on 12/21/2004 3:05:19 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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German Intelligence???

What a remakable oxymoron.

13 posted on 12/21/2004 3:06:35 PM PST by tenthirteen
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Good grief! This sounds like DIS-information.....hopefully.

Only if the German authorities learned anything from the stunning succcess of
Nazi covert operations during WWII.

(That's sarcasm of course...as the Nazis, at least according to what I've read,
were flops in WWII "intelligence" work.)
14 posted on 12/21/2004 3:08:06 PM PST by VOA
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With freinds like these who the hell needs enemies?Mein Gott! Warum Sie mich mit solchen morons umgeben!


15 posted on 12/21/2004 3:11:51 PM PST by American Vet Repairman (Chirac- la petite chienne de l'Islamofascists.)
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4. The BRD is monitoring traffic to and from a suspected group, but cannot break their cypher to confirm. After "leaking" the news of a "breaking", suddenly, the suspects switch cyphers, confirming to the BRD that they are likely terrorists.


16 posted on 12/21/2004 3:11:51 PM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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To: thegreatbeast

New code in the works. See if they can "beat their score" and solve it quicker. Sheesh.


17 posted on 12/21/2004 3:19:54 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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"Okay guys, we cracked yer code. Please plaintext us when you have a new one ready to go.

This is FUN.

Regards,

DumKopf Kraut intercept"

18 posted on 12/21/2004 3:23:03 PM PST by FixitGuy
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5. The BRD has identified several suspected groups but cannot break their cypher to confirm. After leaking the news, some of the groups switch cyphers, indicating which groups should be investigated more closely.
19 posted on 12/21/2004 3:27:01 PM PST by 506trooper (There is no such thing as too much ammo or fuel on board.........unless you're on fire)
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I cant believe they actually havent shot the moron who printed this...right next to the guiy who leaked it...


20 posted on 12/21/2004 3:36:24 PM PST by RaceBannon (Jesus: Born of the Jews, through the Jews, for the sins of the World!)
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