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Local Muslim school taken aback by letter (Houston)
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| EDWARD HEGSTROM
Posted on 12/23/2004 4:33:47 AM PST by Jalapeno
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To: tkathy
I disagree, vouchers is an outstanding idea, if nothing else it will break the strangle hold the liberal institutions have on the education system (remember liberals achieve their power through big government, you break up the governments power and hold over something and you break the liberals power). It will also break up the power of the NEA which is reason in and of itself to go through with it.
And I haven't even touched on the wonderful educational benefits for our children that will be brought about by a little competition in the market place of education (competition breeds excellence). Plus it will also give urban minority populations a chance to send their kids to better schools. I could go on and on.
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posted on
12/23/2004 5:41:09 AM PST
by
Ksnavely
To: Ksnavely
I'm with you. Vouchers restore freedom of choice. There's no reason why a person who opts for private eduction should have to pay twice - one for public schools through taxes, the private school tuition on top of it. It's simply wrong.
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posted on
12/23/2004 5:46:43 AM PST
by
SolutionsOnly
(but some people really NEED to be offended...)
To: All; kt56
I am in agreement with the majority of the posts that state ANSWER THE QUESTIONS! What I tried to do as I read it was to insert Catholicism or Christianity into the question. IWO, read it as if they are asking questions of a Christian school that is requesting admittance.
If you do this, you see that the questions are not that bad. They were basically asking them WHAT they teach in this school, how THEY believe the other schools would will react, and since all the other schools are Christian, how will THEY react to possible animosity.
I think they were fair questions and I am curious as to what TAPPS sends to Christian or Jewish schools who are requesting admittance.
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posted on
12/23/2004 5:48:25 AM PST
by
misharu
To: Jalapeno
Like......there's no "venom" is the bastard book of satan known as the koran? This is typical role-playing by the poor, persecuted moo-slums. Poor F-in babies......And of course the All Criminal Lovers Union is right behind them all the way....
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posted on
12/23/2004 5:54:31 AM PST
by
dzzrtrock
("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud)
To: Ksnavely
If people want poor children to go to religious schools, they should form a private foundation to fund this.
I don't want to see big government, federal tax money going into what will be an awful boondoggle.
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posted on
12/23/2004 5:56:28 AM PST
by
tkathy
(Ban all religious head garb.)
To: Jalapeno
Koran 8:37:
In order that Allah may seperate the impure from the pure, Put All the impure ones (Non-Muslim), one on top of the another in a Heap and cast them into Hell. They will be the ones to have lost."It's the venom in that letter that's so disturbing," Hamdani said
However the ACLU and the Koran see no venom in teaching that infidels must be irradiated?
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posted on
12/23/2004 5:56:48 AM PST
by
yoe
To: Jalapeno
We are heavily involved in a TAPPS school, my wife has been their librarian for 11 years and our 3 sons are all graduates or still attending. I assure you, this school would not be welcome in TAPPS by the other schools. While TAPPS stands for Texas association of private and parochial schools, it is ~90%+ parochial schools (Christian). TAPPS receives no federal or state monies.
There are some interesting dynamics at play here, I almost hope these wahoos take it to court. The TAPPS folks are not idiots, and I'm sure they would get some strong legal counsel if need be. I tried to find an email or phone link so we can express our support, but tapps.net is down right now. You can see a list of 2002-2003 TAPPS schools here:
http://www.baima.org/OCS/MembershipDirectory.pdf
It's our experience that most folks in TAPPS are not fooled into believing that Islam is a "religion of peace" as we have been told. I think this letter was simply brilliant, and also wish I could read it.
Merry Christmas!
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posted on
12/23/2004 5:59:05 AM PST
by
Ted
To: OXENinFLA
He asks about the school's attitude toward "the spread of Islam in America" and the goals of the school "in this regard." Let me go out on a limb and predict that the school's attitude would be that the spread of Islam would be a good thing, and that their goal is to further that. The same kind of answer I would expect from Burlson if asked about his attitude towards "the spread of Christianity in America" and what his goals were "in this regard."
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:02:40 AM PST
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
To: Ted
It's our experience that most folks in TAPPS are not fooled into believing that Islam is a "religion of peace" as we have been told. I think this letter was simply brilliant, and also wish I could read it. So is TAPPS planning on making their 'no Muslim need apply' policy official?
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:04:00 AM PST
by
Non-Sequitur
(Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
To: tkathy
I agree with you. Tuition tax credits would be more bitterly fought than nominating Ward Connerly to the U.S. Supreme Court. The Left desperately fears and hates TTC. All the better to fight them hard-core on every front simultaneously.
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:06:23 AM PST
by
BloodScarletMinnesota
(MPLS STAR-TRIBUNE:America's Most Ridiculed Newspaper)
To: tkathy
Okay...
1. It wouldn't be federal tax money, or a federal run program most plans call for a voucher on taxes that pay for your school i.e. your property tax which is local.
2. If a poor person wants to send their kids to a private school right now, not only would he have to pay for a private school, but through his property tax he would be paying for a school he is not (nor wants too be) sending his kids.
3. Um big government boondoggle??? Yeah nice statement without backing it up with any credible evidence. There is nothing big government or boondogglish about the government giving us our money back to allow us to make our own choices. I am actually stunned I am even having this conversation with a freeper. This is a basic tenant of conservatism. Let the marketplace decide, let people have the freedom to choose, get government out of their way.
4. If you want to talk about a boondoggle lets talk about the current public education system. Failing schools get more and more tax money pumped into them when we should be closing them up and refunding parents so they can have access to other means of education i.e. private schools who compete for the students (you want to talk about a sure fire way to improve our education system). The voucher program will be a giant step in this direction.
5. Bottom line is that there is nothing big government about this, nor will it be a awful boondoggle. It will be a huge advancement for conservative principals of small government and personal choice and freedom.
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:12:04 AM PST
by
Ksnavely
To: Non-Sequitur
Non-Sequitur:
Huh? Did I say I was a TAPPS official? No, I did not. I was just expressing my opinions and observations, which last time I checked is OK in this country.
Everybody else:
http://www.tapps.net is back up. Edd Burleson's email is edd@tapps.net, please email him your support if you wish. Thx!
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:12:07 AM PST
by
Ted
To: Jalapeno
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:18:12 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
To: tkathy
This is why vouchers are such a terrible idea. They will be immediately used by the Islamists to isolate and brainwash their children....
You got to be kidding? What do you think the NEA is doing to your kids in PUBLIC school?
That my friend is brainwashing of the first order.
To: ClearCase_guy
-"Do you teach your students to 'Make war on them (Christians and Jews) until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme' (Koran 8:37)?" Burleson asked.
Katbi said he was "astonished" by the letter. He did not reply to the questions.
Couldn't answer the question, eh?-
Maybe the problem was that he could.
To: tkathy
...I don't want to see big government, federal tax money going into what will be an awful boondoggle....
GOOD!!!!That means you are dusgusted with the present boondoggle called the public school system wich uses double or triple the cost per pupil of private schools to produce crop after crop of barely functional graduates.
To: AmericanChef
"Law-abiding Muslims" are guilty of crimes of omission,not turning in their radical brethern and sheltering them from apprehension. This is the same as being the criminal...a convenient legal term known as "being an accessory to the fact" sums up this form of criminal behavior.
The consequences of this behavior will not always be swift but they will grind exceedingly fine ultimately.
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:40:49 AM PST
by
CBart95
To: tkathy
This is why vouchers are such a terrible idea. They will be immediately used by the Islamists to isolate and brainwash their children. It's called freedom, and I have no problem with it.
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:43:24 AM PST
by
Sloth
(Al Franken is a racist.)
To: tkathy
If people want poor children to go to religious schools, they should form a private foundation to fund this.
I don't want to see big government, federal tax money going into what will be an awful boondoggle<<<
Aren't Christian parents tax dollars (i.e. big government, federal tax money) now forced to pay for the brainwashing of THEIR children in public, big government schools?
Vouchers are THEIR money as well, they should have choice!
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:49:28 AM PST
by
hushpad
To: Non-Sequitur
Let me go out on a limb and predict that the school's attitude would be that the spread of Islam would be a good thing, and that their goal is to further that. The same kind of answer I would expect from Burlson if asked about his attitude towards "the spread of Christianity in America" and what his goals were "in this regard." Christians don't believe in beheading infidels as a means of attaining the goal in this regard.
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posted on
12/23/2004 6:50:57 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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