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To: VadeRetro

I know that "appeal to authority" is used as an excuse not to listen to expert testimony at times- and at times rightly so. Still, is this not evidence that there must be SOMETHING to the intelligent design arguments? Flew is perhaps the world's best known debating athiest. I've a book of his debate with Warren on my shelf. He gave Dawkins a chance to rip the ID arguments and Dawk could not close the deal.


27 posted on 12/26/2004 5:05:15 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Ahban
I know that "appeal to authority" is used as an excuse not to listen to expert testimony at times- and at times rightly so.

Spetner is not a biologist or geneticist. Biologists and geneticists find his models laughably inappropriate, his casual attitude to what is known of the relationships between genes appalling.

Still, is this not evidence that there must be SOMETHING to the intelligent design arguments?

No. Come back when you have something that survives serious scrutiny.

Flew is perhaps the world's best known debating athiest.

And he still accepts evolution. Now he's not an atheist. Neither is Junior. Neither am I, exactly, although you guys are pushing me closer every day.

28 posted on 12/26/2004 5:11:08 PM PST by VadeRetro
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Don't bother to ask me who Spetner is. You caught be going hot and heavy on another thread (appeal to authority was part of it) and I thought you were chiming in THERE.

Now I have to look and see what appeal to authority you were even talking about.

29 posted on 12/26/2004 5:12:50 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Ahban
OK, got it.

Flew currently holds a position known as deism -- the belief that God created the universe but is not actively involved in people's lives today, Habermas said. Because deism is traditionally a "tenuous" position, Flew could move closer to traditional Christianity in the days ahead, he said.
As an official agnostic, I say nobody's an authority in this area. You can appeal to Flew all you want.
30 posted on 12/26/2004 5:15:02 PM PST by VadeRetro
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