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2029 Asteroid Impact Chance Revised Upwards to 1 in 37
NASA Near Earth Object Program ^

Posted on 12/27/2004 9:12:32 AM PST by Strategerist

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ip?2.7e-02

Impact Probability

The calculation of impact probability involves the disciplines of orbital dynamics, estimation theory, and numerical analysis. The orbit of a comet or asteroid is determined from a set of observations (right ascension/declination coordinates). The observations are typically accurate to 0.5 arc-sec, although this can vary somewhat according to the pixel size used in the CCD detectors: some observatories have only 1.0 arc-sec accuracy. Because there are some errors in the observations, there will be uncertainties in the orbital determination for the object. The uncertainty in the orbital elements also depends on the number of observations and the time span over which they are made. The more observations we have, and the longer the time span, the less the uncertainties will be, and the more precise the orbit will become. Thus, for a newly discovered object, the uncertainties tend to be large initially. As more observations are obtained on the object's position, the uncertainties are reduced, and any potential impacts are then eventually eliminated for the vast majority of the cases. See also this animation, courtesy of the Spaceguard Foundation in Italy.

Impact Probability: 2.7e-02

2.700000000% chance of Earth impact

or

1 in 37 chance

or

97.30000000% chance the asteroid will miss the Earth


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KEYWORDS: 2029; artbell; asteroid; impact
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Basically seems like they update the page every day. 2004 MN4 is at the top of the risk page; if you click on the "Impact Probabilty" line it will convert the 2.7e-02 into more familiar probabilities....1 in 37.

Remember this is not a world-killer and a tiny asteroid compared to the one believed to have killed off the Dinosaurs.

The energy of impact of this were it to hit the earth is actually LESS than that of the recent Sumatran earthquake.

1 posted on 12/27/2004 9:12:32 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
Remember this is not a world-killer and a tiny asteroid compared to the one believed to have killed off the Dinosaurs.

Yet if it were to strike a major city the casulties could be in the millions.
2 posted on 12/27/2004 9:15:41 AM PST by Timedrifter
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To: Strategerist

Small comfort if it hits the roof of my house.


3 posted on 12/27/2004 9:16:42 AM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Timedrifter

Why not a little asteroid in San Francisco?


4 posted on 12/27/2004 9:17:14 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: Strategerist

Is it going to hit us or not? I hate waiting.


5 posted on 12/27/2004 9:18:52 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Strategerist

Women, children and minorities to be most affected!


6 posted on 12/27/2004 9:19:02 AM PST by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Timedrifter

Yep.

Odds of that are pretty slim. 70% of the earth is water. (It would generate a tsunami but I suspect that asteroids convert energy into tsunami less efficiently than earthquakes do.)

Then if it hits land, most of the land on the earth is fairly unpopulated.

It would have a climate effect if it hit land, likely worse than the Tambora eruption in 1815, and cause some pretty serious cooling, but probably not enough to really radically disrupt food supplies and whatnot.


7 posted on 12/27/2004 9:19:19 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Timedrifter

But that chance would be at least 1 to 1000, just based on a glance at a map of the world, and visually comparing the land area of cities to the the total land area of the world. So the total chance of it hitting a city is at least 1 in 37,000 - pretty small.


8 posted on 12/27/2004 9:19:40 AM PST by KAUAIBOUND (Hawaii - a Socialist paradise for left-wing cockroaches)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Arguably 2,000 years after the cruxification, which is ---arguably --- a more relevant anniversary than 2,000 years after His birth.

Although the year 2034 would be more likely, to me.


9 posted on 12/27/2004 9:20:11 AM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: CzarNicky
Is it going to hit us or not? I hate waiting.

I suspect that the way the probabilities are now updating it may take weeks or months of observations to get to a definitive miss/hit call.

10 posted on 12/27/2004 9:20:43 AM PST by Strategerist
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It will be Bush's fault if it hits. He did nothing to prevent it. Went to war with Iraq vice the unknown asteroids out there, etc, etc, etc.


11 posted on 12/27/2004 9:21:04 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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"97.30000000"

Am I wrong or is there something implausible about 8 decimal places of accuracy for a number that is corrected by about 60% every time new measurements come in?


12 posted on 12/27/2004 9:21:34 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: Strategerist

IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!


13 posted on 12/27/2004 9:21:40 AM PST by RockinRight (Let's start now-Mark Sanford for President in 2008!)
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To: Strategerist
2029 Asteroid Impact Chance Revised Upwards to 1 in 37

You headline is misleading. It indicates a 1 in 37 chance of impact in 2029.

According to my reading of the link, it is a 1 in 37 chance of impact in the years 2029 to 2079. The chance for impact in 2029 is probabaly next to nil.

15 posted on 12/27/2004 9:24:52 AM PST by WildTurkey
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Why San Francisco?


16 posted on 12/27/2004 9:26:58 AM PST by PlayaDust
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To: Timedrifter

But "big cities" are proportionately "rare" when you look at their total area versus total land mass area (even less when you look at total surface area including bodies of water).

No one would want it to hit anywhere near them, but it is definitely not a "dinosaur killer."


17 posted on 12/27/2004 9:27:01 AM PST by ScottM1968
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To: Strategerist

The sky is falling!


18 posted on 12/27/2004 9:28:27 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Strategerist
I don't care whether it is headed for a hit or a miss right now.

Why doesn't NASA have a team forming right this minute to capture this asteroid and force it into either earth or lunar orbit?

This thing has the makings of the most gonzo space station imaginable, a chance to try out the very futuristic techniques of asteriod mining, and an incalculable potential military value.

Plus we have 24 years to get the job done.

19 posted on 12/27/2004 9:28:58 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: MeanWestTexan
Arguably 2,000 years after the cruxification, which is ---arguably --- a more relevant anniversary than 2,000 years after His birth. Although the year 2034 would be more likely, to me.

Did you adjust for the fact that Christ was born somewhere around 5 B.C., due to a historical calculation error (that wasn't discovered until way too late to adjust)? You'll have to subtract five years or so if you want it to be 2000 calendar years.

20 posted on 12/27/2004 9:29:09 AM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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