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the other voices of puerto rico
dec, 27,2004 | red stone

Posted on 12/27/2004 9:35:39 AM PST by red stone

one million american citizen, living on a selfruled territory of united states ...DEMAND president bush and the congress to respect and honor these fellow americans. the right to live with dignity: share rights, benefits and responsabilities with the other 50 states; equal justice; a goverment with limited power; health; prosperity; vote; democracy; our children free of poverty , safety. puerto rico "estado libre asociado " the big lie , a limbo...a colony ...the negleted state


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1 posted on 12/27/2004 9:35:40 AM PST by red stone
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To: red stone

So...do you want to be #51?


2 posted on 12/27/2004 9:38:25 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: red stone

Y'all keep voting in your own legislature to keep PR from becoming a state. Not my fault.


3 posted on 12/27/2004 9:39:06 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: red stone

Then vote for statehood.

You signed up last month, but I still think I smell ozone.


4 posted on 12/27/2004 9:40:07 AM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: red stone

Puerto Ricans pay no taxes, companies in PR pay no taxes...what more do you want?


5 posted on 12/27/2004 9:45:06 AM PST by Guillermo ("But they're European cut vinyl pirate pants" - Rudy Canoza)
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To: red stone

Be careful red stone, you may get what you are wishing for, the best that everyone involved in this PR situation could do would be to let PR go.

The Puerto Ricans, for the most part, hate the USA. They have now for a half-century, at least.

If the USA would sever all ties, then PR would quickly resemble more of Haiti or DR.

I say they want it, give it to them.


6 posted on 12/27/2004 9:45:52 AM PST by wrathof59 (semper ubi sub ubi)
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To: red stone

How about this?

We SEND back all of the P.R.'s living in NYC AND we wash our hands of PR. Then, you can fester in your own juices.

Crime will probably plummet in NYC as a result.


7 posted on 12/27/2004 9:46:58 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: HMFIC

Please also include the PRs in Chicago. That would be a God send.


8 posted on 12/27/2004 9:48:06 AM PST by wrathof59 (semper ubi sub ubi)
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To: red stone

Great, just as New York is the Empire State, and Florida is the Sunshine State, Puerto Rico can be the Welfare State.


9 posted on 12/27/2004 9:51:23 AM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: red stone
Demand?!!

How about we turn you back over to Spain?

10 posted on 12/27/2004 9:51:34 AM PST by laotzu
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To: Little Pig
Y'all keep voting in your own legislature to keep PR from becoming a state. Not my fault.

Bingo! Most Puerto Ricans are pretty happy with the status quo. Only a small but loud-mouthed minority wants independence and the pro-statehood faction can not seem to gather up a majority.

11 posted on 12/27/2004 9:52:20 AM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: Clemenza
Great, just as New York is the Empire State, and Florida is the Sunshine State, Puerto Rico can be the Welfare State

I think Hawaii has already claimed that title.

12 posted on 12/27/2004 9:52:59 AM PST by skip_intro
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To: Clemenza

It already is.


13 posted on 12/27/2004 9:53:05 AM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: HMFIC

The islanders refer to the descendants of Puerto Ricans born and raised in NYC, but claiming to be Puerto Rican, "New Ricans." Island Puerto Ricans hold New Ricans in absolute contempt, considering them wannabe Hispanics and criminals.


14 posted on 12/27/2004 9:55:49 AM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: red stone

I remember when statehood was up for a vote in '99. Those who actually studied the issue said it was a pig-in-a-poke. Those who were selling the issue in PR were trumpeting the idea that Puerto Ricans would then be eligible for the full raft of social bennies, AFDC, food stamp, medicare, medicaid, SS, Pell Grants and so on. I don't know what Puerto Riquenos are currently eligible for so perhaps someone in the know could fill me in.

Another argument against was that we would be creating our very own tropical Quebec. An essentially foreign, non-english-speaking dirt-poor province that would demand to be pandered to and suck taxpayer swag with abandon (how much it sucks now, I have no idea). All I ever saw of PR was a few days at Roosey Roads when in the Nav but it was definitely seemed more foreign than, say Guam. I know that tax subsidies are used to attract businesses with dubious results. Again, pardon my ignorance but now that the military as abandoned the place with record speed after the closing of the Vieques Range we might have no compelling reason not to cut the place loose and watch it become the regions' newest banana republic overnight.


15 posted on 12/27/2004 9:56:13 AM PST by sinanju
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To: red stone
When Puerto Rico becomes the 51st. State...sure, no problem. Until them shut the hell up. We have enough spongers in this country feeding at the government teet.

Puerto Rico = Haiti 2....

16 posted on 12/27/2004 9:57:23 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: sinanju

Just another fringe group hanging on the U.S. government tit that squirts money. Nothing but a gigantic welfare state, and they are demanding more -- they sound like a bunch of brain-dead liberals expecting the government to run their lives, feed them, pay thier bills and give them all the protection and rights of a U.S. state.

Choke on it PR.


17 posted on 12/27/2004 9:59:06 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: wrathof59

I'd rather hold onto PR. There are some hardworking PRs and there are some slackers (just like anywhere else). As usually, the MSM is always going to report the bellyachers' whining over success stories.


18 posted on 12/27/2004 9:59:34 AM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: red stone

Let me comprehend the exact nature of your comments - you want statehood (big tax increases/less welfare); you want total independence (absolutely no financial donations from big, bad brother U.S.A. Which is it please?


19 posted on 12/27/2004 10:02:16 AM PST by zerosix
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To: sinanju

Yup. I was just there before it closed down, and it really did seem like a foreign country.

They have all kinds of so-called plans for using the base, but the ones they had for the former Coast Guard one on the other side of the island went nowhere due to fighting over the land use. I forsee similar results for Roosey Roads. Those folks were so happy to see us leave...wonder how long that will last?


20 posted on 12/27/2004 10:03:50 AM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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