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ELEGY FROM THE ARCHIVES - (Goodbye, Susan Sontag)
WASHINTONTON TIMESONLINE.COM ^ | JANUARY 3, 2004 | ARNOLD BEICHMAN

Posted on 01/03/2005 9:21:22 AM PST by CHARLITE

Read this passage slowly and carefully, especially the second sentence: "The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, Balanchine ballet et al., don't redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history. It is the white race and it alone — its ideologies and inventions — which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself."

It was not the fault of the Infamous 19 that the Twin Towers were destroyed and with them 3,000 innocent people. It was the fault of the United States, where she {Sontag]lived and prospered.

Perhaps the Infamous 19 should get a collective Nobel Peace Prize, yes? Did the United States ever do a single decent thing in its existence? If any of Ms. Sontag's many admirers can find in her work an example of something decent the American government ever did, especially something done by a member of the accursed "white race," I would like to hear about it.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911highjackers; aclulist; antiwhite; archives; attitudes; legacy; philosophy; policy; racism; susansontag; traitorlist; waronterror; weaselslist; writings

1 posted on 01/03/2005 9:21:24 AM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

"It is the white race and it alone — its ideologies and inventions — which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads"

- As groups of people have spread across the globe they have eradicated or attemtped to eradicate the indigenous peoples they found wherever they have gone. The Native Americans did this when they got to North America, and countless other groups across the globe have done the same thing throughout history.

To attempt to portray the white man as the root of all evil and the only one who has ever done this is not only wrong it is a form of racism.

Susan's ideas, while some may be considered brilliant other were riddled with unfounded biases and prejudice.


3 posted on 01/03/2005 9:33:40 AM PST by contemplator
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To: CHARLITE
ELEGY - Nows there's a word you don't read very often.

It took my feeble intellect a while to figure out that this is an article ridiculing Sontag's racist rantings.
4 posted on 01/03/2005 9:34:18 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: CHARLITE

Good riddance, Ms Snotrag. We won't be missing your racist attitudes at all.


5 posted on 01/03/2005 9:56:10 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: contemplator

To be perfectly fair, the white race was far more effective at genocide than its competitors.

Of course, this was probably because for the last 500 years they were far more effective at everything.

Any group that does 90% of everything during a historical period is likely to be responsible for 90% of both the good and the evil.


6 posted on 01/03/2005 10:06:19 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Restorer

"To be perfectly fair, the white race was far more effective at genocide than its competitors. "

That all depends upon what your meaning of 'white' is.

How about 'Gengis Khan(misspelled intentionally)?

How about Pol Pot?

How about the Boxer Rebellion in China?

And I'm sure there are others on here that could site more examples of 'white' genocide!


7 posted on 01/03/2005 10:19:00 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Restorer

I agree with you to a point, but Susan didn't diffentiate by saying that the white race was more effective, she claimed that it was "the white race and it alone" which eradicated autonomous civilizations. If we are going to look at genocides, I can think of at least two instances recently in Africa which were not performed by the white race.

I question the inference that 90% of the genocide in the last 500 years was done by whites. The problem with this sort of historical analysis is that in many cases no records exists of tribes wiping each other out in Africa, North America and elsewhere.

One might be able to make a case that the white race has been responsible for the majority of all technological/ scientific innovations in recent history and that the mass murder on a large scale made possible by these inventions would alter the percentage points. However the basic idea which Mrs. Sontag put forth that one race was more evil that the others is blatantly false, the human nature which makes killing another man is equally evident in all races.


8 posted on 01/03/2005 10:25:05 AM PST by contemplator
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To: contemplator

I agree. Most of the evil things done by whites (genocide, war, slavery, etc.) are common to humanity.

OTOH, most of the good things (science, medicine, democratic principles, the end of slavery, etc.) were invented by the white race.


9 posted on 01/03/2005 10:44:01 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Restorer

OTOH, white people also invented Communism and fascism.

Hmmm.


10 posted on 01/03/2005 10:47:02 AM PST by Restorer
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To: CHARLITE

I fart in the general direction of Ms Sontag's bier.


11 posted on 01/03/2005 10:47:22 AM PST by Big Digger (If you can keep your head when others are losing theirs, you must be a Republican)
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To: Bigh4u2

I've read a few things about what the Japanese did in China during the early 1900's, was it the opium wars?

Not a pretty sight. Not at all. Makes some of these dictator-wanna-be's look like Mr. Green Jeans.


12 posted on 01/03/2005 10:51:58 AM PST by djf
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To: CHARLITE
"the white race and it alone" which eradicated autonomous civilizations.

hmmm I think the tibetan daly lama would disagree with this twit and im pretty sure all the island nations that were in the way of japans temper tantrum during the late 30s to the mid 40s would have some small disagreements with this deluded headin the sand racist.

13 posted on 01/03/2005 10:52:24 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: CHARLITE
The corpse in question


14 posted on 01/03/2005 10:57:26 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: Baynative

Precisely.


15 posted on 01/03/2005 11:00:53 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: djf
I've read a few things about what the Japanese did in China during the early 1900's, was it the opium wars?

Opium Wars were Britain vs. China. 1820s or 30s if I remember correctly. They were the beginning of the end of the Chinese delusion of superiority, although it took most of a century for the extent to which they had fallen behind to really sink in.

16 posted on 01/03/2005 1:31:53 PM PST by Restorer
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To: CHARLITE
Sontag was a historical ignoramus. Being a well-publicized historical ignoramus is not better than being an obscure one.

BTW, there is no such thing as an "autonomous" civilization. She may have meant "autocthonous."

17 posted on 01/03/2005 1:39:56 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Restorer

I have been thinking a bit about the idea of what can be inferred by an analysis of which race made what progresses.

Technlogical and scientific advances tend to come in waves and depends of many many factors. Among of these factors include a society which is not repressed. The type of repression can come in many forms such as religious, dictatorial,and others. Other factors include educational systems, the ability to pass knowledge from one generation to another, and a need for innovation. When all of these circumstances fit together in the right way, man's quest for answers flowers and innovations come in great spurts.

Great strides have been made by many races in cultures around the world from the medicine and chemistry of China, the architecture of Ancient Egypt, The mathematics of Arabia to the astronomy of the Maya's. Only to have been subsequently lost.

In all of these examples factors were present which limited how far these advances were taken and how widespread they could become. I don't believe the white race posesses anything special which accounts for the great strides that have been made in recent history other than the fact that they were the lucky recipients of a prolonged set of fortuitous circumstances.


18 posted on 01/03/2005 4:51:27 PM PST by contemplator
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Pity. Susan wasn't even famous enough to rate the "die in threes" rule.


19 posted on 01/03/2005 10:32:27 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: contemplator
I don't believe the white race posesses anything special which accounts for the great strides that have been made in recent history other than the fact that they were the lucky recipients of a prolonged set of fortuitous circumstances.

I agree. Some of these circumstances were physical, as in general the geography of Europe lends itself well to disunion and thus to no one dominating power.

Others were cultural, as in the development of the Judeo-Christian paradigm. In this way of looking at the world, all humans are in the final analysis brothers and sisters, as they are all equally the children of God. This is the root principle from which freedom and democracy (in the modern sense) flow. Both of which concepts were utterly unknown in the ancient world.

And the universe, since it has been created by a loving and logical God, is not unknowable. Science takes its techniques from the Greeks. The idea that it is even possible to understand the physical world comes from the Jews.

20 posted on 01/04/2005 5:35:07 AM PST by Restorer
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