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Political Minefield May Hamper Relief Effort [Help from Marines rejected]
KUTV ^ | 1/5/2005 | ERIC TALMADGE

Posted on 01/05/2005 10:29:24 AM PST by Incorrigible

Political Minefield May Hamper Relief Effort

Marines Find It Hard To Get Boots On The Ground

Jan 4, 2005 2:31 pm US/Mountain

ABOARD THE USS BONHOMME RICHARD (AP) Down in the hull, everything is ready: There are tractors, trucks and three huge landing craft. There’s water purifying equipment and plastic tarps and wood beams for building temporary shelters.

And there are more than 1,300 Marines ready to take it all ashore and get to work helping tsunami survivors. But in the political minefield of southern Asia, getting American boots on the ground is a delicate concept—even for a strictly humanitarian mission.

While U.S. military helicopters have been flying supplies to stricken villages in Indonesia for a few days, plans to land a Marine expeditionary unit on Sri Lanka were put on hold after that nation’s government scaled back its request for help, possibly to avoid further strains on a shaky cease-fire with insurgents.

The island’s Tamil Tiger rebels objected to the presence of troops from the United States or neighboring India, saying they could be used as spies for the government. The rebels, which control a large portion of northern and eastern Sri Lanka, detest the U.S. and Indian governments because both officially list the Tamil Tigers as a terrorist group.

American officials said the Marines never intended to go into rebel-controlled areas.

U.S. commanders had earmarked the amphibious assault ships Bonhomme Richard and Duluth to spearhead relief efforts off Sri Lanka’s coast, but the ships have now joined the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and its battle group off the hard-hit Indonesian island of Sumatra.

It’s not clear the Marines will go ashore there, either. The image of large numbers of Marines on shore would be politically sensitive in the world’s most populous Muslim nation, where many people oppose the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

Col. Thomas Greenwood, commanding officer of the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit aboard the Bonhomme Richard, said the Marines are aware of concerns in the region.

“We don’t want to offend anybody’s sensitivities,” he said. “The alleviation of suffering and the loss of human lives should trump politics. We want to be helpful without being bothersome.”

Helicopters from the Bonhomme Richard began relief flights Tuesday over Sumatra, where more than 100,000 people are feared dead and a million or more are homeless after the catastrophic Dec. 26 earthquake and tsunami.

U.S. military helicopters have been key to easing aid bottlenecks and getting supplies out.

But the Marines had hoped to put troops on the ground to provide badly needed manpower for clearing roads and airfields and for building shelters for refugees.

The Bonhomme Richard, carrying more than 1,300 Marines, has three big hovercraft that are capable of landing troops by the hundred on almost any kind of beach. All are fully loaded and ready to go.

For now, though, that capability will not be used. Instead, the ship’s helicopters will continue to pick up supplies from regional airports where they have been piling up and ferry them to isolated villages.

Meanwhile, the USS Mount Rushmore, an amphibious ship carrying a smaller contingent of Marines, is going on to Sri Lanka alone and is expected to reach there by the weekend. An advance party of seven Marines—in civilian clothes—arrived in the southern town of Galle on Tuesday.

Capt. Peter Wilson said he expected at least several hundred Marines to deploy in Galle to provide “limited engineering capability” by repairing roads and other damaged infrastructure as well as help in distributing food.

“This is what Marines do. We like to help people,” he said, citing assistance that U.S. troops gave after a deadly typhoon hit Bangladesh in 1991.

All told, about 20 U.S. military ships and more than 10,000 Marines and sailors have been mobilized for the Asian relief operation, which is the largest the U.S. military has conducted in Asia since the Vietnam War ended in 1975.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: humanitarianrelief; marines; sumatraquake; ussbonhommerichard
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“We don’t want to offend anybody’s sensitivities,” he said. “The alleviation of suffering and the loss of human lives should trump politics. We want to be helpful without being bothersome.”

Apparently most Islamic régimes don't seem to put a high value on the lives of their citizens.

And the Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka are the original "suicide bombers".

1 posted on 01/05/2005 10:29:26 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible

We should bring the aid ashore, then go kick their a**es!


2 posted on 01/05/2005 10:31:34 AM PST by rabidralph (Keep your laws off my money.)
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To: Incorrigible
If the Marines don't go ashore, then the "world's most populous Muslim nation" will be less populated..
3 posted on 01/05/2005 10:33:07 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Incorrigible

aren't they the ones who rejected israeli help? geez. you see the truth in situations like this and it ain't pretty....


4 posted on 01/05/2005 10:34:17 AM PST by wildwood
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To: Incorrigible
And the Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka are the original "suicide bombers."

I think the concept goes back farther.

5 posted on 01/05/2005 10:38:06 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: rabidralph

If they fear our troops that are needed to deliver the support that is need maybe they don't need our help after all to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Oh sorry those were washed out to sea weren't they. Then they need to figure out how to get up and help themselves and, not ask for help if they are going to turn down what is offered to them with an open palm and a palm branch.


6 posted on 01/05/2005 10:40:02 AM PST by handy old one
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To: Incorrigible

I don't really blame the Muslims here.

I mean, how many of us would welcome any Muslim troops in the event of a similar catastrophe here? No thanks - I don't want a bunch of suicide bombers offering their 'help'.

Our Marines should be protecting our nation anyways, rather than wasting their efforts of altruism on people who don't want it.


7 posted on 01/05/2005 10:40:11 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: Incorrigible

This is a small part of the price of politics.

Whether it's in the corporate boardroom, or the jungles of Sumatra and Ceylon, politics is a poison.

For the sake of a few votes - in Indonesia's case - the government there would rather their people died than take the hand of the Great Satan and live.

It's a pity that the people of the area will suffer, sicken, and in many cases, die, just so some worthless politician can say that he stood up for national pride and kept the US out of their country.

Change can't come to these nations soon enough.


8 posted on 01/05/2005 10:44:27 AM PST by Santiago de la Vega (El hijo del Zorro)
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To: Incorrigible
The image of large numbers of Marines on shore would be politically sensitive in the world’s most populous Muslim nation, where many people oppose the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

God forbid anyone should be offended or have their sensibilities tweaked! Meanwhile, people are dying for want of medical care and clean water and food. I pity the poor souls caught in between in these Third World hell holes.

9 posted on 01/05/2005 10:49:05 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Incorrigible

If they don't want the help there, take it somewhere else.


10 posted on 01/05/2005 10:52:43 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: ken5050

If the Marines don't go ashore, then the "world's most populous Muslim nation" will be less populated..

Ha!!! Sounds like a win win situation.


11 posted on 01/05/2005 10:54:02 AM PST by oldbrowser ( A fine is a tax for doing wrong... A tax is a fine for doing well)
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To: Incorrigible

Look at it this way: They can live off the donations from other Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia & the United Arab Emerites who have almost no wealth to speak of, yet made generous donations totalling what - 1 or 2 million?


12 posted on 01/05/2005 10:56:09 AM PST by wingsof liberty (Marines - the few, the proud, the best!!)
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To: Incorrigible

There are so many other people there that need our help, why should we care if some terrorist group wants to harm it's alleged constituency by denying our aid.


13 posted on 01/05/2005 11:02:57 AM PST by No Longer Free State (If integrity does not reside in the captain of the ship, then it is not on board)
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To: Bahbah
If they don't want the help there, take it somewhere else.

I agree. Hell, there are other places in need. Tell 'em adios, and then go.

14 posted on 01/05/2005 11:18:48 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
I was talking to someone just yesterday about this. I said how long will it be before the locals start to take pop shots at our people? I said 90 days. Once their bellies are full they'll dig up their AKs and RPGs from the mud and resume their jihad. The sad truth is the thugs there are going to take the food and aid and use it as a way to gain power and control the populace. Remember Somalia?
15 posted on 01/05/2005 11:29:15 AM PST by rip033
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To: ken5050
At any cost Americans must not be seen in a positive light. If Marines land with supplies and aid, cameras will follow and tjhe word will get out the US really gave a helping hand. The natives also should not be exposed to Americans acting in that capacity..

Anyway that the theory, however the media will bash us no matter what. We get there too late with too little or we have exterior motives. Sick, sick!

16 posted on 01/05/2005 11:54:50 AM PST by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: Incorrigible
We got to ask "rebels" for permission to save lives?

If it were up to me, I would simply say,thankyouverymuch", and "get your s**t together, and when you're ready to accept help, let us know".

End of story, on to the next location.

Don't even start with the "children" crap. Neither I nor we collectively can save every child. It makes total sense, then, to save those who are not likely to be either dead or killers in ten years.

17 posted on 01/05/2005 12:30:54 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: rip033

I doubt it would take 90 days before they start killing the troops.

This refusal of concrete, action-aid is just like a wino - who wants cash not a voucher for food or shelter. Cash money has a number of desireable characteristics that food, muscle power or pure water don't.

First, cash money is fungilbe - i.e. it can be turned into ANYTHING - guns, bullets, crack, fortified wine.
Second, cas money is far easier to skim and hide (although based on past experience - these folks can turn almost anything into a personal profit.)
Third, once the cash is out of sight - everyone forgets where it came from and they can go back to bashing Americans as colonialists and empire builders.

I could go on but I think the point is made.


18 posted on 01/05/2005 12:35:43 PM PST by NHResident
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To: NHResident

BUMP!


19 posted on 01/05/2005 1:17:57 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; Revel

Ping


20 posted on 01/06/2005 6:40:31 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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