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Californians Dreaming of Secession?
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 1/11/05 | Susan Jones

Posted on 01/11/2005 10:00:38 AM PST by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - California could cut taxes, fully fund education and balance its budget by seceding from the United States, a newly organized group says.

The Committee to Explore California Secession, also known as Move On California, says it hopes to bring people together to consider the merits of an autonomous and independent California.

Those benefits would be both financial and political: "For every dollar Californians give to the federal government we see only 78-cents come back," the group's website says. It also expresses concern about "the diminishing voice of Californians in national politics" and "national trends that are tipping the balance in the direction of the religious conservative agenda."

[Contrary to what Move On California claims, California Republicans now chair six U.S. House committees, giving California more congressional clout than any other state, Fox News reported.]

Jeff Morrissette, the founder of Move On California, says the secession buzz began shortly after the November 2004 re-election of President Bush. But, he says, politicians from both parties object to subsidizing other states at a time "when those California tax dollars could be better spent at home to shore up our own fiscal problems."

According to Morrissette, if Californians could control the $40 billion that goes to pork barrel spending projects in other states every year, they could give state taxpayers a $20-billion tax cut and still have enough money to fully fund California spending priorities, specifically education, and balance the budget at the same time.

Morrissette says momentum is building for the California secession movement. "While secession may be a long-shot," he says, "it will succeed in bringing awareness to many of the grievances California has politically, socially and fiscally."

"Californians are getting pushed around and it's time we pushed back," he said.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; bonvoyage; dontletthedoor; dousallafavor; goodriddance; nomorenostrilitis; pleasedo; secession; seeya
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1 posted on 01/11/2005 10:00:38 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
cut off the coast keep the rest.
2 posted on 01/11/2005 10:01:36 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: kattracks

Yeah right. Leave the USA and become MEXIFORNIA!

HAHA! I only hope that we can build a BIG BIG security fence around that zoo.


3 posted on 01/11/2005 10:01:39 AM PST by HMFIC (The Peace Symbol is the FOOTPRINT of the American CHICKEN!)
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To: kattracks

ROFLMAO!! Those wacky left coasters are hilarious.


4 posted on 01/11/2005 10:02:51 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: kattracks
Without tax and spend California Democrats in the House and Senate, the US could balance its budget without California, too.

California could only balance its budget by seceding only if relied on US military protection without paying for it.

5 posted on 01/11/2005 10:03:40 AM PST by SolidSupplySide
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To: kattracks

And then Ahhhnold can be president!


6 posted on 01/11/2005 10:04:00 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: kattracks

Just cut off the infection from the BLUE counties on the coastline and we will keep the good RED ones...there are lots of good RED counties in California


7 posted on 01/11/2005 10:06:15 AM PST by democrats_nightmare
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To: CzarNicky

If California wants to go, the US needs to make one stipulation; they have to take Oregon and Washington, as well.


8 posted on 01/11/2005 10:06:42 AM PST by teenyelliott (Why do we give Middle Eastern countries billions of dollars?)
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To: kattracks
Let them secede.
Then we invade and take them back. No wait, let the *Mexicans* invade, and then we come in to aid them.

I'd like to see what kind of Army and Navy they're going to have -- or are they planning on nationalizing the current resources located in their territory?

TS

10 posted on 01/11/2005 10:07:23 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: kattracks
Yawn...


11 posted on 01/11/2005 10:07:24 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: kattracks
Oh, Boy!

We get to pillage Kalifornia just like the North pillaged the South in the last secession attempt!

12 posted on 01/11/2005 10:07:50 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: CzarNicky

Why give up any territory. Lets make the few blue zones down to the absolute minimum sized liberal/leftist reservations. We can give them security cards and out law self defense "for their own protection" and let them live their non-reproductive lives till they die out.


13 posted on 01/11/2005 10:08:17 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

A little further research is needed but it could very well be that 50 states seceding from Washington, D. C. would save them all considerable money.


14 posted on 01/11/2005 10:08:33 AM PST by meenie
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Wouldn't even be missed.


15 posted on 01/11/2005 10:08:42 AM PST by SweetPilotofCanuckistan
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To: kattracks

Well, it gets most of Hollyweird out of the US, without having to go to Canada..


16 posted on 01/11/2005 10:08:47 AM PST by ken5050
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To: HMFIC

Just put 'em all on the other side of the fault, drill some injection wells and start pumping...Let 'em have their own island...


17 posted on 01/11/2005 10:09:36 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (Live from an oil rig in Montana.....)
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To: longtermmemmory

Maybe we can pull a reversal of the Castro-Karter trick and dump the leftist vermin ON CASTRO...and toss the scum that he sent here in 79 with them!


18 posted on 01/11/2005 10:10:12 AM PST by HMFIC (The Peace Symbol is the FOOTPRINT of the American CHICKEN!)
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To: kattracks

If you didn't already know it, these people are out to destroy your country. They are councilling, promoting and facilitating secession from the Union. This is treason, and should be dealt with accordingly. Freedom to express one's opinion (no matter how odious) is one of the foundations of your great nation; however, the line has been more than crossed now. I might be a bit past it, but I'll sign up to fight 'em, if it comes to that. No charge (though I wouldn't be upset to get a permanent resident card out of it:-).

Soros is attacking your country from within and without. He's using his facsist $ to undermine the greatest nation on earth. Something should be done.


19 posted on 01/11/2005 10:10:21 AM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
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To: yall

Don’t let the whining blue-spot lib-losers get you down. The red areas,
the vast majority of California, like the red areas coast to coast, will
continue to be the cash cow for political pork. California is forced to
be a little more generous that most, thought.


20 posted on 01/11/2005 10:10:34 AM PST by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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