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5 new F/A-22 fighter jets land at base
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/10595250.htm?1c ^ | Jan. 08, 2005 | AP

Posted on 01/11/2005 3:51:19 PM PST by klpt

TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE -- (AP) -- Five more F/A-22 Raptors landed Friday at this Florida Panhandle base where Gen. John P. Jumper, Air Force chief of staff, is among the first pilots being trained to fly the new stealth fighter.

The five Raptors arrived from the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co. plant in Marietta, Ga., a day after all F/A-22s were cleared to resume flying for the first time since a Dec. 20 crash at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev.

The additional planes increased the number of Raptors at Tyndall to 18, more than half of the 33 now in the Air Force inventory. A 34th plane had been scheduled to arrive but its flight was postponed due to mechanical problems, said Capt. Susan A. Romano, a Tyndall spokeswoman.

Jumper is scheduled to make his final F/A-22 qualification flight here Wednesday.

The planes were grounded as a precaution after the Nellis crash. Safety and accident investigation boards have not disclosed a cause, but Air Force officials said they were confident the jets could be flown safely based on preliminary findings. The pilot suffered scrapes but was otherwise unharmed.

Eight F/A-22s are stationed at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., and seven at Nellis for testing and evaluation. All pilot training is done at Tyndall. Langley Air Force Base, Va., is expected to receive the first operational Raptors this year.



TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Florida; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airforce; airforcebase; f22; fa22raptors; fl; florida; jets; military; miltech; raptor; tyndallafb; usairforce
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1 posted on 01/11/2005 3:51:19 PM PST by klpt
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To: klpt

Nice job. Good pics.


2 posted on 01/11/2005 3:52:43 PM PST by pipecorp (I am, therefore, I think... At least I think I think, maybe I thought I think, or I think I thought.)
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To: illstillbe

Cool bomber planes...


3 posted on 01/11/2005 3:52:58 PM PST by Dog
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To: Rivendell; AFPhys; JRandomFreeper; Kathy in Alaska; Jen

Wonder if I could borrow it for a day?


4 posted on 01/11/2005 3:54:31 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: klpt

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123009567


5 posted on 01/11/2005 3:54:33 PM PST by klpt
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To: klpt


very very hot aircraft.
6 posted on 01/11/2005 3:57:14 PM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: klpt

The rocket jocks must be loving this. Thanks for the post.


7 posted on 01/11/2005 4:01:56 PM PST by microgood (Washington State: Ukraine without the poison)
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To: klpt

Why is the Air Force Chief of Staff flying this plane? Familarity/planning reasons?


8 posted on 01/11/2005 4:12:55 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Terpfen

Probably because the same reason as a dog licks his < ahem > -- because he can.


9 posted on 01/11/2005 4:15:26 PM PST by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: klpt

Why is a General training to fly it?? Does he expect to fly them full time?


10 posted on 01/11/2005 4:15:47 PM PST by GeronL (I am NOT the real bin Laden)
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To: GeronL; Terpfen
"Why is a General training to fly it?? Does he expect to fly them full time?"

To show confidence. An F-22 just crashed. If the Brass doesn't fly in it, then you'll get naysayers claiming that the Brass is *afraid* to fly in it...that's it's a dangerous aircraft that should be cancelled. Such is politics.

So the Brass flies in it. Problem solved.

11 posted on 01/11/2005 4:20:02 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: microgood
Supersonic persistence: The F/A-22's engines produce more thrust than any current fighter engine, especially in military (non-afterburner) power. Called "supercruise," this characteristic allows the F/A-22 to efficiently cruise at supersonic airspeeds without using afterburners. This capability greatly expands the F/A-22's operating envelope in both speed and range over current fighters that must use afterburner to operate at supersonic speeds.

To me, the above is the coolest aspect of this fighter.

For more information, see here.

12 posted on 01/11/2005 4:20:37 PM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: Southack

I would also think since he is the one who makes plans based on the capabilities of the fighter, he is making sure he is familiar with it.


13 posted on 01/11/2005 4:22:42 PM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: All
"If the Brass doesn't fly in it, then you'll get naysayers claiming that the Brass is *afraid* to fly in it..."

A historical example might be the V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor; don't see too many Generals flying in that one when it is doing its horizontal to vertical transition maneuvers.

14 posted on 01/11/2005 4:22:55 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

OK. I wouldn't say that of course.


15 posted on 01/11/2005 4:23:17 PM PST by GeronL (I am NOT the real bin Laden)
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To: stylin_geek
"Called "supercruise," this characteristic allows the F/A-22 to efficiently cruise at supersonic airspeeds without using afterburners. This capability greatly expands the F/A-22's operating envelope in both speed and range over current fighters that must use afterburner to operate at supersonic speeds. To me, the above is the coolest aspect of this fighter."

Better gas mileage does not a fighter make...

16 posted on 01/11/2005 4:24:20 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: GeronL
Our previous base commander (a general) had his own jet and flew on a regular basis with his men. This is nothing new...it's what they do in the Air Force.

Althoough the raptors have been here a while, it's only very recently that I have noticed them flying over. (Could have been lack of observation on my part)

17 posted on 01/11/2005 4:24:33 PM PST by capt. norm (Rap is to music what the Etch-A-Sketch is to art.)
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To: stylin_geek
A remarkable piece of technology. Supercruise. An incredible radar that is hard to detect. Stealth.

The most survivable fighter in the inventory. And dangerous to the opposition.

18 posted on 01/11/2005 4:26:13 PM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: klpt

Jet Noise - the Sound of Freedom.


19 posted on 01/11/2005 4:27:31 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stylin_geek
To me, the above is the coolest aspect of this fighter.

That is cool. I remember the old days when the F-14s needed to use afterburners just to get off the flight deck.
20 posted on 01/11/2005 4:28:23 PM PST by microgood (Washington State: Ukraine without the poison)
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