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Issue isn’t respect for governor office; it’s election validity
The Chronicle (Greater Lewis County, WA) ^ | 20 January 2004 | The Chronicle Editorial Board

Posted on 01/20/2005 6:05:24 PM PST by Josef1235

Rochester Republican Dan Swecker’s boycott of an inauguration ceremony last week for Democrat Christine Gregoire and the inaugural ball that followed had nothing to do with any disrespect by Swecker for the office of governor. Making such an erroneous claim or suggestion about Swecker misses the point of his protest, with which a majority of his constituents likely concur. The 20th District state senator, who represents Lewis County and parts of Thurston County, believes as do many others that the election for governor was so deeply flawed the result was illegitimate. Calling for a delay in legislative ratification of a microscopic 129-vote reversal for Gregoire in the third count of votes, as Swecker and all his Senate GOP colleagues did, in fact shows more respect for the governor’s office than installing someone when the legitimacy of such an election is being contested in court. The Legislature wrongly abdicated its responsibility and jurisdiction over elections to the courts. It should have reviewed the long list of serious discrepancies, mistakes and flaws that make knowing who the winner really was impossible and authorized a new election. But the Legislature is controlled by the Democrats and they wouldn’t even allow a delay in official installation of the new governor, let alone look at the flaws and approve a revote. On the one hand, they concede election flaws in general and make election reforms a top priority this session, but on the other hand they excuse, dismiss, minimize or rationalize the discrepancies in the governor’s race, especially in King County, and claim that in the third count, in which King County switched the result to Gregoire from Rossi, election process mistakes were fixed and the result is legitimate. What’s legitimate about hundreds of provisional ballots that were counted without their validity ever being checked and the discrepancy of other hundreds exceeding the number of people who voted? And so on. Now it’s up to the courts to decide. They may or may not, in the absence of legislative responsibility, determine that the election was invalid, throw it out and provide relief for the people of this state, which the Legislature failed to do, by mandating a new election. Understandably, both sides on the governor’s election are motivated to varying degrees by partisanship, but as Swecker said in a commentary in The Chronicle Wednesday, “what nobody can question is that many citizens throughout Washington,” including many Democrats, “believe the election had numerous problems and that a revote is necessary.” The integrity of the election is very much in question as is the legitimacy of the installed governor. Respect for the office of governor demands a revote. That is the first election reform that should take place in a system that badly needs fixing, as so obviously revealed by the governor’s election flaws. We have no call to laugh at Florida any more.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: christinegregoire; courage; danswecker; decency; democracy; dino; dinorossi; justice; liberty; marummy; morality; recall; rossi; swecker; theft; themostcorruptstate; ukraington; votefraud; washington
I figured I should post today's great editorial and at http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com/2005/01/total-mockery-part-03.html is hyperlinks to supplemental material.
1 posted on 01/20/2005 6:05:33 PM PST by Josef1235
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To: Josef1235

Issue isn’t respect for governor office; it’s election validity
Rochester Republican Dan Swecker’s boycott of an inauguration ceremony last week for Democrat Christine Gregoire and the inaugural ball that followed had nothing to do with any disrespect by Swecker for the office of governor.
Making such an erroneous claim or suggestion about Swecker misses the point of his protest, with which a majority of his constituents likely concur.
The 20th District state senator, who represents Lewis County and parts of Thurston County, believes as do many others that the election for governor was so deeply flawed the result was illegitimate.
Calling for a delay in legislative ratification of a microscopic 129-vote reversal for Gregoire in the third count of votes, as Swecker and all his Senate GOP colleagues did, in fact shows more respect for the governor’s office than installing someone when the legitimacy of such an election is being contested in court.
The Legislature wrongly abdicated its responsibility and jurisdiction over elections to the courts. It should have reviewed the long list of serious discrepancies, mistakes and flaws that make knowing who the winner really was impossible and authorized a new election.
But the Legislature is controlled by the Democrats and they wouldn’t even allow a delay in official installation of the new governor, let alone look at the flaws and approve a revote.
On the one hand, they concede election flaws in general and make election reforms a top priority this session, but on the other hand they excuse, dismiss, minimize or rationalize the discrepancies in the governor’s race, especially in King County, and claim that in the third count, in which King County switched the result to Gregoire from Rossi, election process mistakes were fixed and the result is legitimate.
What’s legitimate about hundreds of provisional ballots that were counted without their validity ever being checked and the discrepancy of other hundreds exceeding the number of people who voted? And so on.
Now it’s up to the courts to decide. They may or may not, in the absence of legislative responsibility, determine that the election was invalid, throw it out and provide relief for the people of this state, which the Legislature failed to do, by mandating a new election. Understandably, both sides on the governor’s election are motivated to varying degrees by partisanship, but as Swecker said in a commentary in The Chronicle Wednesday, “what nobody can question is that many citizens throughout Washington,” including many Democrats, “believe the election had numerous problems and that a revote is necessary.”
The integrity of the election is very much in question as is the legitimacy of the installed governor. Respect for the office of governor demands a revote. That is the first election reform that should take place in a system that badly needs fixing, as so obviously revealed by the governor’s election flaws.
We have no call to laugh at Florida any more.


2 posted on 01/20/2005 6:06:50 PM PST by Josef1235 (I think I fixed it this time...)
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To: Josef1235
Your first post?

Don't you have a blog? ;o)

3 posted on 01/20/2005 6:14:08 PM PST by SW6906
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To: CyberCowboy777; Libertina


4 posted on 01/20/2005 6:18:12 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Josef1235

Wow.

This article isn't even middle of the road - it actually says it like it is!

The dims were so frantic to get GreGorevych into the Governor's mansion that they've stepped on the "sensibilities" of their own. Gotta love it when they eat their own ;'}

No matter how long she lasts, she will NEVER be legitimate!


5 posted on 01/20/2005 6:52:32 PM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: Josef1235

The new gov seems like a hellbent to win at any cost shecat....not good no matter what, she should have pressed for another election as well.


6 posted on 01/20/2005 7:59:54 PM PST by harpo11
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To: Josef1235
King County Ping Thing

Isn't it lucky for us the Internet never forgets! Burn the facts and the names of anyone perpetrated, covered up, and ignored this into google's archives. Next time around, when curious voters do a little research the truth will be known.
7 posted on 01/20/2005 8:09:13 PM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Josef1235
Good one, Josef -- welcome to FR

Issue isn’t respect for governor office; it’s election validity

Rochester Republican Dan Swecker’s boycott of an inauguration ceremony last week for Democrat Christine Gregoire and the inaugural ball that followed had nothing to do with any disrespect by Swecker for the office of governor.

Making such an erroneous claim or suggestion about Swecker misses the point of his protest, with which a majority of his constituents likely concur.

The 20th District state senator, who represents Lewis County and parts of Thurston County, believes as do many others that the election for governor was so deeply flawed the result was illegitimate.

Calling for a delay in legislative ratification of a microscopic 129-vote reversal for Gregoire in the third count of votes, as Swecker and all his Senate GOP colleagues did, in fact shows more respect for the governor’s office than installing someone when the legitimacy of such an election is being contested in court.

The Legislature wrongly abdicated its responsibility and jurisdiction over elections to the courts. It should have reviewed the long list of serious discrepancies, mistakes and flaws that make knowing who the winner really was impossible and authorized a new election.

But the Legislature is controlled by the Democrats and they wouldn’t even allow a delay in official installation of the new governor, let alone look at the flaws and approve a revote.

On the one hand, they concede election flaws in general and make election reforms a top priority this session, but on the other hand they excuse, dismiss, minimize or rationalize the discrepancies in the governor’s race, especially in King County, and claim that in the third count, in which King County switched the result to Gregoire from Rossi, election process mistakes were fixed and the result is legitimate.

What’s legitimate about hundreds of provisional ballots that were counted without their validity ever being checked and the discrepancy of other hundreds exceeding the number of people who voted? And so on.

Now it’s up to the courts to decide. They may or may not, in the absence of legislative responsibility, determine that the election was invalid, throw it out and provide relief for the people of this state, which the Legislature failed to do, by mandating a new election. Understandably, both sides on the governor’s election are motivated to varying degrees by partisanship, but as Swecker said in a commentary in The Chronicle Wednesday, “what nobody can question is that many citizens throughout Washington,” including many Democrats, “believe the election had numerous problems and that a revote is necessary.”

The integrity of the election is very much in question as is the legitimacy of the installed governor. Respect for the office of governor demands a revote. That is the first election reform that should take place in a system that badly needs fixing, as so obviously revealed by the governor’s election flaws.

We have no call to laugh at Florida any more.

8 posted on 01/20/2005 10:47:42 PM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Adua Ad Astra!)
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To: sionnsar

BUMPping


9 posted on 01/20/2005 10:49:13 PM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Adua Ad Astra!)
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Washington State Ping List

This is all known Washington State FReepers and interested parties as of 1/12/05 - 356 FReepers

If you want on or off this ping list Freepmail me.

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10 posted on 01/21/2005 10:13:13 AM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Well.... I'll be)
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To: Josef1235

Fraudoire--name for present incumbent


11 posted on 01/21/2005 10:24:05 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: SW6906

http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com


12 posted on 01/21/2005 3:20:02 PM PST by Josef1235 (I think I fixed it this time...)
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To: rockrr

Well said.

That grinch should prepare for check-out


13 posted on 01/21/2005 3:21:21 PM PST by Josef1235 (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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To: Josef1235

Interesting, isn't it that this thread just didn't take off and get a lot of replies for some reason, but other threads do.


14 posted on 01/21/2005 8:36:01 PM PST by SW6906
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To: SW6906

Probably because although I tried, the editorial didn't come out.

Or because I suck.


15 posted on 01/21/2005 8:42:52 PM PST by Josef1235 (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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To: Josef1235

No, no, no, Josef, you don't suck. I'm just curious as to why some threads seem to just take off and generate hundreds of replies, but others just peter out quick. I thought this one would have legs. I can't tell you how many articles I've posted that I was passionate about and I thought others would be too and then they just die after 10 or 20 or 30 posts. Then, other times, they grow to 100+ posts. Interesting.


16 posted on 01/21/2005 9:22:44 PM PST by SW6906
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To: SW6906

Thanks. I just don't have a big ego, that's all.

I too am curious about this...


17 posted on 01/23/2005 5:05:01 PM PST by Josef1235 (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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