FN 5.7 (Fabrique Nationale) pistol is a semiautomatic pistol in 5.7 X 28

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives ^ | 1/20/05 | NA

[neverdem]

 

FN 5.7 (Fabrique Nationale) pistol is a semiautomatic pistol in 5.7 X 28 mm caliber

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1/20/05

In response to numerous questions that ATF has received regarding the capabilities of the 5.7 X 28mm cartridge, the following technical information is provided.

FTB classified SS196 ammunition as not armor piercing.

The FN 5.7 (Fabrique Nationale) pistol is a semiautomatic pistol in 5.7 X 28 mm caliber.

Type: Double Action Only or Single Action (in Tactical model).
Chambering: 5.7x28mm.
Length: 208 mm
Barrel length: 122.5 mm
Magazine: 20 rounds.

The FN 5.7 (Fabrique Nationale) pistol is a semiautomatic pistol in 5.7 X 28 mm caliber approved for importation as a sporting firearm.

The classification of all ammunition is governed strictly by the definitions presented in the GCA. Specifically, as defined in 18 U.S.C. Section 921(a)(17)(B), the term "armor piercing ammunition" means-

1. a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
   
   
2. a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.

FTB has also examined a 5.7 X 28 mm projectile that FN Herstal has designated the "SS196." The SS196 is loaded with a Hornady 40 grain, jacketed lead bullet. FTB classified SS196 ammunition as not armor piercing ammunition under Federal firearms statutes.

According to FNH USA, FN Herstal tested the SS192 ammunition. SS192 ammunition did not penetrate the Level IIIA vests that were tested. FNH USA states that SS196, Hornady V-Max 40 gr. bullets fired from a 4-3/4 inch barrel did not penetrate the Level II vests that were used in testing.

FNH USA has informed FTB that SS192 is no longer imported for commercial sale to the United States and that commercial sales of 5.7 X 28mm ammunition are restricted to the SS196 (not armor piercing).

FN Herstal 5.7 X 28mm Ammunition

SS190 - Armor piercing (AP)
SS191 - AP Tracer
SS192 - Hollow Point (not AP)
SB193 - AP Subsonic
SS195 - "Green" - lead free hollow point projectile with copper jacket (not AP)
SS196 - Sporting round (Hornady 40 gr. V-max, hollow point lead), (not AP)
10700004 Blank (not classified as ammunition under Federal law)
10700005 Dummy

 

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[neverdem]

The NRA appears to have received this statement from BATFE at http://www.atf.gov. The URL for the statement is http://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearmstech/fabriquen.htm

A leap in evolution

[Bikers4Bush]

Bump for later.

[angkor]

That's a bad boy. Are they for sale? How much $?

[rellimpank]

---and the cute little cartridge is an updated .22 Hornet which was the hot item with varmint hunters in the roaring 20's---

[ExSoldier]

I just saw one of these at the gun show last week. I't about the size of a Beretta M92 and quite light in weight. I like it and might get one later....perhaps two or three guns down the row in purchase priorities. I also saw the new S&W 325PD .45 ACP revolver. THAT is one sweet gun! My first purchase priority remains a Sig P220 with light rail. After that, I'll probably want the new Ruger "Alaskan" snubbie. After that it's prolly gonna be the new Springfield Armory M1A variant known as the SOCOM 16. Then I'll think about this one. By that time there will be enough reviews and first hand long term reports from owners to make a good decision.

[roaddog727]

That would certainly ruin your day for sure if you were on the receiving end.

[Eagles6]

BATFE. Is that the party department of the federal government?

[angkor]

On another note I just encountered (has this been posted?):

Police Chief's Poll Supports Gun Ownership

NEW POLICE CHIEFS POLL JUST RELEASED
Jan 19, 2005

Police Execs Speakout About Terrorism, Gun Control, Drugs

The National Association of Chiefs of Police released its 17th Annual Survey of Police Chiefs and Sheriffs and some of the survey findings are surprising and compelling. The survey -- released in the January 2005 issue of Police Times Magazine -- had some surprising results on various topics including terrorism, gun control, homeland security, and drug enforcement.

NACOP asserts that the public perception of how police view certain issues is based on media coverage, which is not necessarily accurate. When police chiefs and sheriffs are allowed to respond to poll questions anonymously, the politics may be removed from their answers.

[snip]

Gun Control: With regard to private citizens owning firearms for sport or self-defense, 93.6 percent of the respondents supported civilian gun-ownership rights. Ninety-six percent of the police chiefs and sheriffs believe criminals obtain firearms from illegal sources and 92.2 percent revealed they hadn't arrested anyone for violation of the so-called "waiting period" laws. When asked if citizens concealed-weapons permits would reduce violent crime, 63.1 percent said yes.

[506trooper]

Hmmm.....may have to consider this as a replacement for my Walther P-100, when I need to carry a small piece....

[Poohbah]

BATFE. Is that the party department of the federal government?

BATFE = Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.

In my view, partaking of alcohol and tobacco should not be done while partaking of firearms and explosives. Unfrotunately, the federal government hasn't figured that out yet.

[TXBSAFH]

I will just keep my Glock G21 for carry for now, thank you.

[neverdem]

IIRC, someone mentioned $850 on this thread, Gun Control Group [Brady Bunch] Warns of New ‘Cop-Killer’ Handgun.

I wanted to get the word from out "the horse's mouth" to all interested parties for the coming agitprop campaign.

[angkor]

Ruger "Alaskan"

Wow. How did I miss that one? Nice.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/News-11-11-2004B.html

[angkor]

Ouch!

[ExSoldier]

I used to have a Glock M21. Great gun, especially for IDPA competition. I used to use a Haarts recoil reducer in it and indeed it does cut felt recoil by about 50%. I have smallish hands and changed to the M30 when it came out. LOVED it! But I sold it to my nephew (who is going to inherit all my guns anyway, someday--not soon, I hope) for a good price and bought a Sig Sauer P245 for carry. But someday, I may get another M30 just for old times sake.

[hchutch]

LOL!!!

[TXBSAFH]

I like 45 acp. That is why I love this glock.

[IGOTMINE]

That pistol would be just the prescription if you're ever atacked by a poodle wearing body armor.

[roaddog727]

"I like 45 acp. That is why I love this glock."

I just dumped my Glock 19 for a Springfield Armory 1911-A1 milspec .45 ACP.

What goes down, stays down.

Can't wait to "test" it out......

[TXBSAFH]

45 ACP will stop most anything. Even if you are wearing armor, it will knock the crud out of you.