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Rather: High Point For U.S.
CBS ^ | 1/30/05 | Dan Rather

Posted on 01/30/2005 12:39:55 PM PST by ricks_place

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To: Fido969
Similar to the US, and no one is threatening to kill us if we go to the polls

Yeah but we also take voting for granted.

61 posted on 01/30/2005 4:22:52 PM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: ricks_place

Is my understanding correct that Iraqi security forces guarded close to the polls, while U.S. soldiers guarded farther away?

I am trying to write an analysis story of the election and its meaning to counter the KRT story a couple weeks ago that was an analysis of the violence and was all negative.

But, I can't seem to find some of this info very easily.


62 posted on 01/30/2005 4:29:40 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: 1LongTimeLurker

Yes, but the media thinks it can know opinion by polling only 1000-1200 people.

My retort would be: Iraq polled 8,000,000 today!


63 posted on 01/30/2005 4:32:58 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (I can no longer separate a reality story from satire on this site. People are losing their senses.)
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To: ricks_place

Surprising article.

Some more excerpts:

"Conservative estimates placed turnout at 50 to 60 percent of the 14 to 15 million Iraqis who were eligible.

Whatever the final percentage of eligible voters who actually cast ballots turns out to be, it will be high, especially considering that it came about in the teeth of a ferocious guerrilla warfare effort to stifle turnout."

"The insurgency isn’t over by a long shot, but it is clearly off-balance and reeling. Whether it stays that way or not in post-election days remains to be seen.

But no one should be mistaken: the guerrilla war fighters suffered substantial loss in the election, both in fact and in perception.

The momentum shifted in favor of the U.S. military and Iraqi forces a few months ago, and has accelerated in their direction with the election.

Before the election, it was widely believed that the turnout would be a major test of President Bush’s goal of establishing a democratic government in the midst of the Middle East, and for hopes of stabilizing Iraq and eventually bringing home the 170,000 U.S. troops here.

The tests were passed. In the first hours after the election, the voting appears to be the best moment for America’s mission in Iraq since the fall of Baghdad and the subsequent capture of Saddam Hussein.

Is it the tipping point for the whole effort? It may well be. There is, however, still much to be done."

He makes a good point later about thet need to get them some stable electricity.


64 posted on 01/30/2005 4:42:57 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: ricks_place

Rather would like to end his career as TV anchorman by acting like a journalist for a change, huh?


65 posted on 01/30/2005 4:48:21 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: ricks_place

It should be noted that the number of 44 actually includes 9 terrorists, according to an article on the CBS website.

The number of people actually attacked and killed by the terrorists stands at 35, not 44.


66 posted on 01/30/2005 4:53:22 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: rwfromkansas
"It should be noted that the number of 44 actually includes 9 terrorists, according to an article on the CBS website."

All the headlines are just saying that 44 are dead.

The number of dead murderers should NOT be lumped summarily in with the numbers of people they MURDERED. The left continues to dance on the dead for political coinage.

67 posted on 01/30/2005 5:03:34 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Milton Friedman
It is a great day to be an American. We should all be proud. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Indeed, vile tyrannies have been deposed, and Afghanistanis and Iraqis have now been brought the gift of each man having his say in representative government. Perhaps it's a gift that we who have enjoyed its blessings for so long sometimes forget its preciousness, but I would hope that no American would denigrate its value when it is brought to yet more nations.

Let's hope these high points will be mere valleys to what may come in the future for both of these free nations.

68 posted on 01/30/2005 5:09:48 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: Monti Cello
***Remember, this election was done NOT IN YOUR NAME.***

WOW - in your face libs with your own words!! Good one Monti!

69 posted on 01/30/2005 5:47:17 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: Polybius

ROFLMAO!

70 posted on 01/30/2005 6:41:56 PM PST by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: ricks_place
I believe Danny Boy may have seen some of the finer points.....nah.

FGS

71 posted on 01/30/2005 6:42:36 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: AggieCPA
I'm not so sure ol' Danny boy even wrote this. I can't POSSIBLY see him saying this:

Easy, now he can say he was always on board with Iraqi freedomm, and this statement 'proves' it.

72 posted on 01/30/2005 7:02:39 PM PST by RaceBannon (((awaiting new tag line)))
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To: Monti Cello

Excellent point.


73 posted on 01/30/2005 7:03:41 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
I just wonder if this Rather statement could be the beginning of a trend of libs sniffing the wind and trying to shuffle over to the right side of history.

Freepers and the FR archives will hold them to account.

74 posted on 01/30/2005 7:23:08 PM PST by Monti Cello
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To: Fenris6

He couldn't resist to try to malign the US :


"But any exit strategy that does not also take seriously the problems of electricity, sewage, garbage and fuel -- and show concrete progress toward solving them -- runs high risk of failure.

Next to security, the number one concern among ordinary Iraqis is getting regular, predictable electric service.

Close behind is doing something about the long lines for gasoline in a country with perhaps the largest oil reserves in the world.

There is danger that U.S. authorities and newly elected Iraqi political entities will not act swiftly and decisively in dealing with these problems.

Overwhelmingly, most Iraqis simply cannot understand how the United States has failed to help in these areas for so long. "


75 posted on 01/30/2005 8:25:16 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Darkwolf377
"Maybe he changed frequencies on the extraterrestrial implant stuck up his nose."

Laughing so hard I'm wiping away tears...
76 posted on 01/30/2005 8:40:21 PM PST by Flora McDonald (Stand the Storm!)
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To: ricks_place

I've been watching CNN and they are genuinly surprised. Maybe they were actually beginning to believe their own propaganda


77 posted on 01/30/2005 8:47:54 PM PST by The Raven
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To: Fenris6; Mudboy Slim
Fenris6 said: Nice try Dan [Rather]. Your name is and always shall be MUD.

Although I agree completely with your meaning, Fenris6, I must object to this extent:

I know Mud [aka Mudboy Slim]. Mud is a FRiend of mine. And, Dan Rather, you're no Mud.

78 posted on 01/30/2005 8:51:47 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: Flora McDonald

Oh come ON! YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE!!!!! ;)


79 posted on 01/30/2005 8:53:00 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (I care as much about Sunnis not voting as I did about the white minority not voting in S.Africa)
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To: ricks_place

If Dan had the IQ of a carrot, he'd be on the beach somewhere drinking margaritas. Don't tell me he doesn't have the money and he's not getting any younger. Oh well, it's a lot more fun to see him blowing his career out of his ass.


80 posted on 01/30/2005 9:00:03 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is a death sentence.)
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