Parolee, 19, Is Held in Death Of Actress During Robbery

New York Times ^ | February 1, 2005 | MICHAEL WILSON and JANON FISHER

[TexasTransplant]

>>>when a gun is pointed at you (the first time) and money is demanded, your first reaction might be (as mine was) "this isn't happening, is it?" I recall making a slight grin<<<

My first reaction was to ask if they were kidding, after getting beat in the face with the pistol I figured they were serious, but as it happened, we were in a Jeep traveling about 30 mph or more, (the Driver was in on it), the Guy in the back was the one with the Gun and he was the one beating me and asking for my wallet, Jeep - No Doors - Driver & Me went out the Drivers side, I used him as a Surfboard until we slowed down and then I ran, the guy with the Gun got the Jeep stopped a whole lot quicker than I thought he could have, then fired a few shots off at me as I ran through of all things a Cemetery.
True Story
Weirdest part is that I went immediately back up to the road mad as hell (after the guy that shot at me), totally enraged and out of control (I must have thought I was bullet proof) and all I could think of is shoving that pistol up his A$$ and beating the living crap out of him, Many Many years ago and about 100 lbs lighter than I am now.
I wonder how I have lived this long, it was only one of many stupid things that I have done (and survived)
TT

[durasell]

Gough's was an institution. Great Gough's story: for years there was a dirty, ornate frame some six feet high behind one of the booths. The canvas it held was so dirty from cigarette smoke an grim, it basically looked like a picture of a black cat at midnight. One of the art guys from the Times take the picture one day and decides he's going to restore it. Doesn't have a clue how to do it, but he reads some books and starts. About a year later, the fully restored painting comes back into the bar -- who is it? It's an enormous, life-sized portrait of John L. Sullivan in formal attire.

I was in there one night and there's a very proper British actress in the back booth giving an interview to the reporter about her new play that's about to open. The interview ends and roughly three hours later, she on the bar -- literally on the bar -- singing the filthiest songs you can imagine to a full house.

[durasell]

He's played by Matthew Broderick in the movie -- a movie, which nopardons seems to hate.

[PotatoHeadMick]

Regarding the 'Mr' thing I note the Irish equivalent of the NYT, the Irish Times, does the same thing. They get themselves into terrible twists about it though, someone told them that Arabs have their family names first so after much thought they came up with 'Mr Saddam' which was actually how he was referred to in editorials. I read about 'Mr Zedong' alot before I realised they were talking about Chairman Mao.

Actually I shouldn't be too hard on the Irish Times they've recently hired Mark Steyn to contribute, boy he really ruins alot of their readers' breakfasts.

[Richard Kimball]

Cool thing about Texas, if someone is involved in the commission of a crime that leads to a death, EVERYONE involved in the original crime can be charged with murder. This eliminates the defense that you can't prove which guy pulled the trigger, so you can't charge any of them with murder defense. When Aubrey Hawkins was murdered by seven escaped convicts, each of the seven was charged with murder, and I believe all seven were convicted:

The premise of Texas law is that individuals who are in the commission of a crime give up certain rights, including the right not to be shot and the right to blame the guy that's with you if someone dies while you're committing a felony.

[Shortstop7]

I positively despise the NYT. Who gives a rat's a$$ if the killer was "openly weeping" ?? It disgusts me the way they turn killers into some type of victim we are supposed to pity. Let him do his "boohooing" on Death Row.

[wardaddy]

Her final, defiant words to her killer have led to speculation that she might not have been killed if the group had just given over their belongings.

Well that justifies it in New Sheep City I guess.

[durasell]

Irish Times is a surprisingly good paper.

[Luddite Patent Counsel]

It's called accomplice liability, and lots of states have it. One of my personal faves is "felony murder", where you're on the hook for murder if anyone croaks, for any reason, while you're doing a felony. For example, you stick your finger out in your pocket to pretend you have a gun to rob a 7-11, some old coot back in the dog food section doesn't even see you, but keels over of a heart attack... You're going down for murder one! How can you not love that?

[nopardons]

Charles McArthur was Helen Hayes' husband. And his family is still BIG in Chicagol real estate.One of his Chicago (I'm not certain of how many greats,maybe only one) nephews is named HAYES MCARTHUR.

[nopardons]

I didn't hate the movie,I hate the actress (sic) who portrayed Dorothy Parker.

[durasell]

I know, I know, she mumbles. I was just teasing you.

[nopardons]

"she".................SHE;you're a SHE?????????????????????????????????????????????????

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

Something stinks here. Why aren't the punk's buds charged with murder. It is my understanding that anyone involved in a crime resulting in murder, all are equally guilty of said murder.

[durasell]

Wait...let me check. No, I'm not a she. I meant the actress who plays Dorothy.

[Khurkris]

STUPID NAME ALERTS

"Mr. Simmon's two sons, Servano, 17, a high school student, and Servisio, 21,...

[TexasTransplant]

Gough's must have been quite the Hang-out.

I have a similar story about a Trio (very well known from the 60's) and one of the members of said Trio did an impromtu Auction of Hookers from on top of the Bar... (Not in the US, late 70's)

still remember, "Run'em along boys Runn'em in, Buy'em by the Piece or Buy'em by the Pound, Buy'em by the pound! get all the Pieces you want! Runn'em along Boys Runn'em in"

As a kid I thought it was hilarious, I even bid, now that I am the age of the man that did the auctioning, I am appalled, things certainly change with age. That was a "Guess you had to be their" moment.

[durasell]

Because the DA wants the shooter. If they testify against him, they'll get reduced charges. If the DA goes to convict all of them, then they have nothing to lose by lying and ten thousand relatives will come out of the woodwork to swear they were home play scrabble the night of the murder.

[nopardons]

Oh.............I see;now that I've picked myself up off the floor.

Yes,the actress is from the school of mumbles and bad accent coaching.

[TexasTransplant]

their = there