[68skylark]

What a horrible story.

[Arkinsaw]

[Arkinsaw]

[martin_fierro]

[68skylark]

At the news conference, however, asked about how people should respond to an armed robber, he said, "If you're in a situation when someone is pointing a weapon at you, I think it's best to comply with the directions of that individual."

I hate advice like this -- it just gives a green light to armed robbers.

I'd say each person has to make their own, personal decisions in that situation -- trust your instincts. (Yeah, I've faced an attempted street robbery or two.)

[Fiddlstix]

What a horrible story.

Yes it is. It was posted the other day when the news broke.

Having said that.....
Send him down here to Texas. We'll take care of him the proper way.

(Meek! Texas Ping?)

[Luddite Patent Counsel]

I hope Mr. Fleming is a writer like Jack Abbott. We can watch everyone at the New York Times heads explode when they have to choose between the "aspiring actress" victim and the "artist" criminal.

[ditto h]

These idiots think that they are God.....They are too stupid to know that they will be before God shortly.

[TexasTransplant]

"The police said that Mr. Fleming might be affiliated with a gang but that it did not appear to have played any role in the shooting"

I guess the four Clowns that were with him were just "Innocent Bystanders"

As a Father I can only comment that the Law will never extract enough punishment to satisfy me, Lynching wouldn't be good enough.

My prayers for the Parents of this young Lady.

[budwiesest]

He got into a shooting position and aimed at four safety officers, before four police officers, their weapons drawn, ordered him to drop the gun, Mr. Smith said. He did.

Bet these 'safety' officers would like to revisit that day. When someone has gone over the edge, displaying a desire for suicide by cop, I think you should oblige them.

[dog breath]

Stupid cheap punk, he will have years to regret that moment in prison. I would wish him a miserable life as a bitch in prison but it would not bring back the beautiful young woman he murdered. That is the problem with doing something really wrong, it haunts you forever and nothing ever really makes it right.

[Apercu]

How very sad. Maybe if concealed carry laws were in effect in New York, thugs & burglars would think twice about their actions.

[paul51]

Two other friends of Mr. Fleming's, brothers ages 17 and 21, were questioned in the killing but not charged after telling detectives they were shocked when Mr. Fleming pulled the trigger

Even if that is so...which I doubt...why aren't they charged with the attempted robbery which resulted in a death?

[rawhide]

I do not understand why the guy's 2 sons were not charged with anything? They were present at both crimes. It seems to me that they were accomplices. Can somebody please explain this to me?

[philetus]

He got into a shooting position and aimed at four safety officers, before four police officers, their weapons drawn, ordered him to drop the gun, Mr. Smith said. He did."


Too bad for Ms. duFresne that the cops didn't shoot him dead.

[Trailerpark Badass]

Ms. duFresne's friends described her as a tough, fiery survivor of a rape in a bar's parking lot while at Emerson College in Boston.

You would think she would have had enough of bars.

[Duke Nukum]

It is a horrible story but I admire the young actress, Nicole. I would hope I could stand up to thugs like that.

For the longest time when watching a movie and someone pulls a gun on a person, like in King of Comedy when Jerry Lewis has a gun pulled on him, I wonder "why would anybody get into a car with someone who just pulled a gun on them?"

Later, some expert was on some Fox show, pitching a book, and he said you shouldn't get into a car if someone pulls a gun on you, first, you're then totally at their mercy. Second, if they shoot you in a city, you have a better chance to survive then if they drive you way out into the country and shoot you in a field.

Some people might think you should try to stay alive, no matter what, or if you only have to hand over your wallet or whatever, but once a monster pulls a gun on you, they may take your wallet, order you to sodomize your best friend, and then shoot you anyway.

It's so hard though, because it might not just be you, it might be like this where a scum rat pulls a gun on you and a group of your friends, what if you step up and say "what are you going to do? Shoot me?" and they shoot your best friend instead?

I live in one of the safest cities in America but I think about these things all the time.

[sweetiepiezer]

I am so glad they got him, if he is guilty, then hang him high.

[Miss Behave]

Here's the original thread on the crime the morning it went down:

ACTRESS SLAIN

Lots of interesting positions taken by FReepers. Worth a read if you haven't. Also contains a lot of good advice, from those more street savy, regarding effective (and ineffective) self-defense.

[oyez]

It time that those who approve paroles be held responsible when their parolee commits more crimes.

[jocon307]

"...the Baruch Houses in Manhattan."

That is the ghetto of the ghetto.