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Conservative in Politics, Not in Lingerie
NY Times ^ | 2.2.2005 | Peter Applebome

Posted on 02/02/2005 6:23:29 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick

February 2, 2005
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Conservative in Politics, Not in Lingerie

By PETER APPLEBOME

WHO knows if the Republican Babe of the Week feature on Tom Schneider's conservative Web site will do much for the party in New Jersey?

But with the Republicans ascendant nationally and stuck in the mud in New Jersey, maybe Mr. Schneider is on to something with his promise to put the party back in the Grand Old Party.

So if the seven Republicans hoping to take on Democratic Senator Jon S. Corzine in the race for New Jersey governor want to get some attention, here's a hint: Don't worry about the official New Jersey Republican Party Web site (www.njgop.org) with its earnest assemblage of position papers and dour officeholders. Instead, check out its evil twin at www.jerseygop.com. That's where Mr. Schneider is hoping to prove that the party of Pat Robertson and James Dobson is also the party of lacy lingerie and bare skin, where being wrapped in the flag takes on a whole new meaning.

It's possible that Mr. Schneider's Web site, which is both a business and political undertaking, is getting a half-million page views a month because of his proposal for a New Jersey version of Newt Gingrich's Contract with America or his recent essay, "Secular Fundamentalism in America."

Well, maybe it's not possible. Mr. Schneider, who lives in Riverton, in South Jersey, and does both online marketing and landscaping, figures that maybe 90 percent of the visitors to his site come for his Republican Babe feature, which exists somewhere between hard-core patriotism and soft-core porn, where state secrets meet Victoria's Secret.

Not that all the subjects and poses are salacious. There are pundits and politicos in prim garb with no-nonsense gazes, and the site may be the first "babe" site to include a secretary of state - Condoleezza Rice. And given that the prototype in terms of ideology, hair color and body type seems to be Ann Coulter - who knew there were so many starving Republicans? - reactions to the feature may vary according to one's political and aesthetic views.

There are leggy country music stars (Faith Hill, Martina McBride, Sara Evans), beauty queens (past or present Miss South Dakota, Miss Missouri, Miss USA), actresses (Heather Locklear, Lara Flynn Boyle, Sarah Michelle Gellar), and a galaxy of supermodels. Eight of the fair and balanced women of Fox News are recognized en masse for their contributions to the cause. Kirsten Andersen, identified as a Gen X columnist in the mold of Ms. Coulter, poses with the flag covering her seemingly bare chest. (She says she wore a bathing suit.) A few pose brandishing pistols, others pose fetchingly in their underdrawers.

THERE is also a "Dude of the Week" page. But it gets about one-tenth the viewers as the Babes, and the honorees, like Donald H. Rumsfeld, Rush Limbaugh and Rudolph W. Giuliani, are far less likely to strike seductive poses on satin sheets or to have been picked for how they might look in their Speedos.

Mr. Schneider describes himself as a former "extreme leftist wacko" who was persuaded by talk radio of the error of his ways. He said he was so disgusted by the lack of pop on the Republican site in New Jersey that he decided to start his own.

"I disagree with the stereotype of Republicans as being the boardroom, cigar-smoking, stodgy white guys," he said, "and that anybody's who's Hollywood, music industry, celebrity, anyone who's supposed to be cool is always a leftist, liberal Democrat. So I'm trying to break down the stereotype - if you're young and go to parties you can still be a Republican."

The page might not play so well in Alabama, but in New Jersey, going up against Mr. Corzine's money and name recognition, a tiny coolness injection probably cannot hurt the party. So, for example, the official Republican site links to Mr. Schneider's. Family values or no, the party chairman, Tom Wilson, sounds unconcerned. "If that's what he wants to do, that's what a free market is all about," he said. "I'm not going to editorialize about someone else's Web site or make judgments if he uses pictures that show too much skin or someone's bikini is too small."

As for the honorees, they seem pleased. Ms. Andersen, a 24-year-old conservative writer, said that, fair or not, looks matter, and that if the feature draws people to read conservative thought, more power to it. "Conservative women are kind of proudly non-P.C., so if your looks can draw people to your words, why not play the game?"

Mr. Schneider added that his wife, initially a skeptic, ended up posing for last year's Babe of the Week calendar. He said that he didn't think there's much in even the skimpiest garb that would give offense.

"We like to call them pajamas," he said.


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To: TheBigB
Vicki's secret is for us girls to know, and for you guys to read about. ;-)

B, it's very complex, and may be over your...brain. ;-)

41 posted on 02/02/2005 8:05:42 AM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Miss Behave

I only read it for the articles (of clothing) anyway. :)P


42 posted on 02/02/2005 8:09:24 AM PST by TheBigB (Ask Fierce Allegiance about his suck emergencies!)
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To: Clemenza
"The truth is that Victoria's secret is that she is a he. The company is one of many owned by Leslie Wexner (who also founded the limited). Trust me, you do NOT want to see Mr. Wexner in lingerie."

I'm sure his WIFE grins and bears it when he cat-walks with come-hither, out of the master bath, in this spring's latest satin and laced fuschia, peek-a-boo, clear plastic strapped demi-bra and matching garter straps, with coal black, large scale fishnet hose on over his black croc Manolo stilettos.

She knows which side her bread is buttered. ;-)

44 posted on 02/02/2005 8:20:16 AM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: TheBigB
"I only read it for the articles (of clothing) anyway. :)P"

So...each small article must be a quick read? ;-)

45 posted on 02/02/2005 8:24:46 AM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Miss Behave
Yes, I just tear right through them.

Mayhap I could've phrased that differently...

46 posted on 02/02/2005 8:26:07 AM PST by TheBigB (Ask Fierce Allegiance about his suck emergencies!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Bam. Smackdown on B. ;-)
47 posted on 02/02/2005 8:26:50 AM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
"Mr. Schneider, who lives in Riverton, in South Jersey, and does both online marketing and landscaping, figures that maybe 90 percent of the visitors to his site come for his Republican Babe feature, which exists somewhere between hard-core patriotism and soft-core porn, where state secrets meet Victoria's Secret."

Not someone I'd vote for. Demeaning women as sex objects isn't very Republican.
48 posted on 02/02/2005 8:30:40 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Miss Behave

I always get great service at the VS mall stores.


49 posted on 02/02/2005 8:34:19 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Prepare for Fierce Allegiance day, Feb 9th.)
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To: Mr. Thorne

"Bet you dollars to donuts: Photoshop."

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner. ;)


50 posted on 02/02/2005 8:35:09 AM PST by LibertyGirl77
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To: LibertyGirl77
A-HA! The secret's out! :^)

Still a great pic, though...

51 posted on 02/02/2005 8:36:58 AM PST by TheBigB (Ask Fierce Allegiance about his suck emergencies!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance; TheBigB; Clemenza
LOL, Fierce. And Mr. Leslie Wexner is probably the only guy that knows what the color fuchsia is. Fierce, you don't know what it is, do you?

It is not even CLOSE to John Deere yellow. :-)

52 posted on 02/02/2005 8:39:54 AM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Miss Behave

"No man should know the difference between mauve and fuschia."
~~Tom Parks


53 posted on 02/02/2005 8:41:44 AM PST by TheBigB (Ask Fierce Allegiance about his suck emergencies!)
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To: TheBigB

But you like it when you see it?


54 posted on 02/02/2005 8:43:30 AM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Miss Behave

Beats me. I have no idea when I see it. :^)


55 posted on 02/02/2005 8:44:03 AM PST by TheBigB (Ask Fierce Allegiance about his suck emergencies!)
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To: Miss Behave

Yep, fuschia is the only non Crayola-8 color I know. The nice ladies at VS taught me that one. I said I want the bright pink and they laughed. I never met Mauve.


56 posted on 02/02/2005 8:45:00 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Prepare for Fierce Allegiance day, Feb 9th.)
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To: TheBigB; Fierce Allegiance
"Beats me. I have no idea when I see it. :^)"

B must go into VS stores blindfolded. I knew he was weird.

57 posted on 02/02/2005 8:49:01 AM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Miss Behave

The only times I've ever been in them was with ex-gfs shopping. If I liked the color, I liked the color, but I never asked what it was. I just called them red, pink, blue, black, etc.


58 posted on 02/02/2005 8:51:31 AM PST by TheBigB (Ask Fierce Allegiance about his suck emergencies!)
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To: Miss Behave; TheBigB

In Vic's Secret stores, I get asked odd questions by other customers.
Usually along the lines of "How's this look?" or "I need a man's opinion on this."

Sometimes amusing, sometimes enigmatic, and sometimes makes me groan inwardly while forcing a smile.
I never know what I will be yelled at about next.


59 posted on 02/02/2005 8:56:45 AM PST by Darksheare (Trolls beware, the icy hands of the forum wraith are behind you!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance; All

You all are REALLY going to laugh at me for this(try to be gentle, please),but I hav ealways thought that Victoria's secret was owned By Victoria Principal(I know, dumb,'eh)?

As for the line about "conservative women NOT being "PC"', well, maybe that explains it, then.. Most of the women I have known, and have betrayed me, turned out NOT to be conservative at all.


60 posted on 02/02/2005 9:01:23 AM PST by Rca2000 (Helping to swing the swing state of Ohio to "W")
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