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Committee endorses bill liberalizing concealed weapons law
Casper Star Tribune ^ | Feb 3, 05 | ROBERT W. BLACK

Posted on 02/03/2005 7:33:56 PM PST by SLB

CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) - A House committee on Wednesday recommended a bill that would liberalize Wyoming's concealed weapons law.

The measure, sent to the House floor 7-2 by the House Minerals, Business and Economic Development Committee, would essentially allow any non-felon to carry a concealed gun without a permit.

''You can carry - simple as that,'' said the sponsor, Rep. Becket Hinckley, R-Cheyenne.

Wyoming would join Alaska and Vermont in not requiring permits for concealed weapons, he said.

Hinckley, a deputy prosecuting attorney, was joined in support by Richard Bohling, Albany County's prosecutor, who said law-abiding citizens sometimes have been convicted of illegally carrying a concealed weapon when they had no intent of breaking the law.

Bohling, holding a notebook bearing a sticker reading, ''I'm the NRA and I vote,'' cited the case of an elderly Missouri man who was found to have had a loaded pistol in his glove box after a rollover.

Bohling said he was forced to prosecute the individual, who was later convicted. The bill would prevent prosecution of people in similar situations who have no ill intent, he said.

However, the bill would apply only to people who have been residents of Wyoming for at least 90 days, so the man in Bohling's example might still have been prosecuted under the law.

The proposal drew fire from law enforcement officials, including Byron Oedekoven, lobbyist for Wyoming's sheriffs and police chiefs, who said the bill could compromise officer safety.

Oedekoven said the existing permitting process allows officials to check whether someone has a substance abuse problem or other impairment that would preclude them from carrying a hidden gun.

Over 11,800 applications have been made for concealed weapons permits and only 190 have been denied, Oedekoven said. If the bill were to pass, those 190 people - and anyone else who wanted to - could legally carry a concealed weapon.

State Attorney General Pat Crank said the system provided a ''public safety check'' for Wyoming residents.

''It's a system that's set up to make sure that people who are out there carrying concealed weapons are reasonable, responsible folks,'' he said.

If the bill were to move forward, Crank recommended it be amended to rescind the permitting process. Two staffers who review permit applications in the Division of Criminal Investigation could be better utilized elsewhere, he said.

''If we're going to let virtually anybody carry a concealed weapon, that's a waste of our time and resources,'' he said.

A provision in the bill would require any person stopped or detained by an officer to immediately reveal if he or she is carrying a concealed weapon.

Lt. Col. Sam Powell, acting administrator of the Wyoming Highway Patrol, said he was not ''overly optimistic'' that the notification would occur, but added that the patrol was neutral on the issue.

Veterans' Affairs Commission Director Don Ewing, speaking as a private citizen, echoed Oedekoven's concern that people who probably shouldn't be carrying weapons would be allowed to under Hinckley's bill.

Ewing said when he goes fishing in the Snowy Range, he typically carries a pistol in his backpack because of people he encounters illegally driving off-road vehicles - people who might have no regard for any laws.

''I carry it because of the two-legged animals up there,'' he said. ''I don't want those folks having a concealed weapons permit.''

Typically, law-and-order bills are sent to the Judiciary Committee, but House Speaker Randall Luthi referred the legislation to the Minerals Committee because it had a lighter workload.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; fwp; wyoming

1 posted on 02/03/2005 7:33:57 PM PST by SLB
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To: Lion Den Dan; Joe Brower; wyopa; archy; Squantos; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; Morgan's Raider; ...

Sanity reigns in Wonderful, Colorful, Wyoming. The Equality state.


2 posted on 02/03/2005 7:37:41 PM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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I really love Wyoming. Visited friends there several times. I can see concealed carry as being necessary in town. Don't need to advertise what you've got. There is so much of WY that is beautiful wilderness, though. I would think you would walk around with a hogleg on your thigh or a rifle in your truck.


4 posted on 02/03/2005 7:46:08 PM PST by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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If one has bum-bum, why would one need piece of paper saying that he has it? Everyone should carry, there will be no crime, no jerk drivers, no stupid RATs....


5 posted on 02/03/2005 8:00:21 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (Slava Ukraiini!)
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The only drawback I see for the people of Wyoming is this. If they get rid of CHL, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming are the only places they will be able to carry. CHL recipriocity, at this time can only be granted with an issued license. If you're not going to leave the state, no problem, but for carry outside the state, CHL will be necessary. P.S. I'm assuming that Alaska and Vermont allow any non felon U.S. citizen to carry, I'm not really sure how those statues read.


6 posted on 02/03/2005 8:13:18 PM PST by TEXASPROUD
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Maybe Alaska, Wyoming and Vermont are just the beginning. Who knows, within a few years maybe concealed carry w/o permit will be universal.


7 posted on 02/03/2005 8:16:56 PM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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Outstanding !


8 posted on 02/03/2005 9:17:25 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: EricT.
I really love Wyoming. Visited friends there several times. I can see concealed carry as being necessary in town. Don't need to advertise what you've got. There is so much of WY that is beautiful wilderness, though. I would think you would walk around with a hogleg on your thigh or a rifle in your truck.

You are welcome to come visit my digs in the NW corner of the cowboy state, but if you figure on venturing outside your car, I'd strongly suggest you bring along at least a largebore handgun or shotgun, for several reasons.

There's not much of a problem in my locale with bears or stock-feeding wolves, but feral dog packs can be a bother, as can elk who've jumped the fences of their usual range. And the name of the canyon adjacent to our property is Rattlesnake Canyon....

And if you don't have some sort of iron on you or at least handy in your rig [travel vehicle] you'll be short a topic of conversation and some folks will think you're a bit peculiar.

9 posted on 02/05/2005 11:31:57 AM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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